Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 2nd February 2015, 07:58
Mike H Mike H is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 25
Mike H is on a distinguished road
Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Hi,

can anyone tell me if the book mentions Me410 intruders of KG51 operating over the UK during April 1944. In particular any information or photos of Lt Wolfgang Wenning or Fw Gustav Delp?

Regards,
Mike H

mharrison4@ntlworld.com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 2nd February 2015, 11:25
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,930
Nick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura about
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Unless the text has been expanded since the Ian Allan version of the 1970's then no, it wouldn't have much to say about intruder operations, nor about III./KG 51's operations on the Fw 190 from June to November 1944.

Simon Parry's "Intruders Over Britain" may be of more help to you though.
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2nd February 2015, 11:53
egbert egbert is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 165
egbert is on a distinguished road
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Dierich's book mentions on pages 222 and 223 the missions to the UK with ME410 from I./51. Stationed in St Andree they flew regular missions to UK. A more detailed report dates March 24. The squadron re-located to Germany in June 44. No mentions of the said personnel
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2nd February 2015, 12:00
egbert egbert is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 165
egbert is on a distinguished road
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

page 286:
Lt Wolfgang Wenning killed 27.4.44 in England, 6.Staffel
That's all, no more
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2nd February 2015, 12:12
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,930
Nick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura about
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Quote:
Originally Posted by egbert View Post
Dierich's book mentions ... The squadron re-located to Germany in June 44. No mentions of the said personnel
And even that isn't really correct, II./KG 51 was in France flying Me 410 operations at night throughout the Normandy campaign against road junctions, Allied airstrips etc.
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2nd February 2015, 12:39
egbert egbert is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 165
egbert is on a distinguished road
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Beale View Post
And even that isn't really correct, II./KG 51 was in France flying Me 410 operations at night throughout the Normandy campaign against road junctions, Allied airstrips etc.
Sorry when I mislead you.
I am quoting from the book. If you do not trust the authors or these kind of informations, please do not ask for look-ups.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2nd February 2015, 13:27
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,930
Nick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura about
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Quote:
Originally Posted by egbert View Post
I am quoting from the book. If you do not trust the authors or these kind of informations, please do not ask for look-ups.
And I was simply pointing out that this 40 year-old book (if it has not been updated by Schiffer) contained a number of inaccuracies. I was not asking anyone to look up anything.
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 2nd February 2015, 13:37
egbert egbert is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 165
egbert is on a distinguished road
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

I do not know the Schiffer book. I am refering to the book quoted as in post#3
Wolfgang Dierich
Kampfgeschwader 51 "Edelweiß"
Eine Chronik aus Dokumenten und Berichten 1937-1945
Motorbuch Verlag 1973
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2nd February 2015, 14:32
Nick Beale's Avatar
Nick Beale Nick Beale is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Exeter, England
Posts: 5,930
Nick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura aboutNick Beale has a spectacular aura about
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Quote:
Originally Posted by egbert View Post
I do not know the Schiffer book. I am refering to the book quoted as in post#3: Wolfgang Dierich, Kampfgeschwader 51 "Edelweiß"
Eine Chronik aus Dokumenten und Berichten 1937-1945
Motorbuch Verlag 1973
The book published by Schiffer was the subject of the original post and looks as if it may be a reprint (with more photos) of Dierich's 1973 original (the English translation of which appeared in 1975).
__________________
Nick Beale
http://www.ghostbombers.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2nd February 2015, 14:42
egbert egbert is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NRW, Germany
Posts: 165
egbert is on a distinguished road
Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

As I do not know the Schiffer published book on KG 51and understanding it is an enhanced version of the Motorbuch publishers would you/somebody with access please have a look at this thread and check for ANY more information in the updated English language version ?
I do not want to hijack this thread so possible answers please on the respective thread here
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Documenting the history of our World War II Veterans Pete Minix Movies and Documentaries 1 5th February 2008 21:47
Documenting the history of our World War II Veterans Pete Minix Off Topic 1 15th January 2008 00:43
My library - you rate it! generalderpanzertruppen Books and Magazines 8 24th November 2007 03:36
Historical Text on the Origins of WW2 on the Eastern Front - Peer Review Requested Dénes Bernád The Second World War in General 7 3rd May 2007 21:44
Revising Angels, Bulldogs and Dragons - History of 355th FG in World War II drgondog Books and Magazines 6 3rd February 2006 19:22


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net