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Old 8th September 2007, 21:30
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Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

On the 8 July 1942 127 Squadron made claims thet 2 Me109's were shot down in the Alamein area at around 12:00hrs.
Can anyone match these to any Luftwaffe losses?
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Old 8th September 2007, 21:51
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

Hi

both "Fighters Over The Desert" and "Hurricanes Over The Sands" state that although the claiming pilots of 127 saw their victims crash, what they actually saw were Hurricanes of 33 Squadron shot down by 109's in the same dogfight
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

5 planes were lost by JG27 that day 2 of the 3. nd one of the 8. could hv chance to cope with your question places Qutaifaya the others Turbiya nd El Daba

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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

Hi Bruce,

With reference to HURRICANES OVER THE SANDS (Vol. 1), did Michel Lavigne ever publish volume 2 ?

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Old 13th September 2007, 00:39
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

hi, could some friends tell me the ISBN of the "HURRICANES OVER THE SANDS (Vol. 1)" by Michel Lavigne ? this is the first time I heard of this book and I can find on amazon, is it good ?
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Old 13th September 2007, 00:45
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

and one more question, is this book a collection of memoir of Amricans served in the RAF and RCAF, or more similiar with Christopher shores's "Fighters Over The Desert" ?
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Old 13th September 2007, 20:12
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

I have Hurricanes over the sands and it is quite good. Several errors in 'Fighters over the sands' are duplicated.
A tyicall one was the main reason for this Post.
Both Shores and Lavigne say that 'although the claiming pilots of 127 saw their victims crash, what they actually saw were Hurricanes of 33 Squadron shot down by 109's in the same dogfight'
Remi has suggested that JG27 lost 5 aircraft that day.?

However it is quite good with several eye witness accounts.
I bought mine direct from Ian Allen Publishing.
Check out Micheal Lavigne's own web site.
http://homepage.mac.com/guy.samson/L...ion/index.html

Vol 2 is not out yet and and Mr Lavigne has never replied to any of my emails.
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Old 13th September 2007, 21:09
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

thank you, I also find "Kittyhawks over the sands" by the same author, both are interesting
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Re: Bf109 losses - Alamein area.

Andy,

Thank you very much for that link to his website. It was new to me. Same experience concerning E-mail.

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