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26th December 2007, 22:17
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11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
Hi!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to Ruy and all the (other) contributors to 12 O'Clock High ! Some months ago there was a request for information regarding a crash in Belgium during May 1940 (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=7464) Is it possible to receive a confirmation that the plane w/nr.147 4U+EK crashed at Fosse-La-Ville (Belgium) or at Schinnen (The Netherlands) ? Which was the correct date 11 or 12 May 1940 ? Was it Hans Weicksel or Weiksel or Weichsel ? As he was wounded he was possibly liberated later in the war and returned to his unit. Could it be the same person as Hptm Hans Weicksel (born 16/04/1915) and died on 3/06/1942 and buried at Champigny-St.Andre (France, Block 17 Reihe 22, Grab 1181) ? Many thanks and best regards Luc 
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27th December 2007, 00:03
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Re: 11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
Hi Luc,
This crash was on May 12: Do-17P 4U+EK (wk.nr? 147) of 2.(F)/123 emergency landing at METTET ~06.15 The location is mentioned as “Pont de diable” Pilot: Uffz Heinz BOURNOT, Obs Oblt Hans WEICHSEL, Gunner Obgefr Herbert RICHTER all PoW Belgians, then French, liberated later. The crash at Schinnen was on May 11: Do-17P 4U+HK of 2.(F)/123 landed at SCHINNEN (gehucht ‘t ROOTH, Limburg, NL). Lt Heinz BROSCH, Fw Hermann LAYHER en Fw STEINER all wounded. Regards, Pieter
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27th December 2007, 08:39
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Re: 11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
Hptm Hans-Georg Weicksel was in a Bf 108 Wk Nr 3021/VK+WU of Stab/KG 6 shot down by 401 Sqn near Gamaches 3 Jun 42. Bournot was still with 2/123 (as an Oblt) at the end (Sep 44)
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27th December 2007, 09:36
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Re: 11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
...and according to the NVM, Weicksel, born 16 Apr 15 in Leipzig, was killed 3 Jun 42 so he is the same person
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29th December 2007, 21:59
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Re: 11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
Chris and Pieter,
Many thanks for your replies. Due to the fact that the name is not identical I don't know if the person who was killed aboard the Bf108 in 1942 was the same as the one which made a crashlanding during May 1940. The information which Chris supplied is very complete, but the information regarding the May 1940 doesn't mention when Oblt.Hans Weichsel was born. Best regards Luc
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30th December 2007, 10:03
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Re: 11 or 12 May 1940 2(F)./123 Do17
Yes it does-it is the same person as the NVM for May 40 also says killed 3 Jun 42.
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