Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 1st August 2005, 15:30
aradoar234 aradoar234 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: near Koblenz, Germany
Posts: 7
aradoar234 is on a distinguished road
RAF Mustang c/n's

Hello

I'm looking for the c/n's of the RAF Mustangs Mk.I's: AG345-AG664 (NA-73) and AL958-AL999, AM100-AM257, AP164-AP263 (NA-83). Any idea, where I can find the original North American c/n's? Can somebody provide me with this numbers?


Regards
aradoar234
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 1st August 2005, 17:36
Alex Smart Alex Smart is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 4,375
Alex Smart is on a distinguished road
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Hi,


Air Britain's "The British Air Commission and Lease-Lend"

This has a lot of info on ALL US aircraft that was used by the UK's RAF and FAA.

Alex
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1st August 2005, 18:04
Alex Smart Alex Smart is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 4,375
Alex Smart is on a distinguished road
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Hi again,

Sorry to misslead you

The serials you seek are not listed in the book.

But

AG = 320 a/c
Manufacturers serials were 73-3097 to 73-3416
16 were sunk en route to UK.
AL; AM; AP = 300 a/c
Manufacturers serails unknown.
FD = 150 a/c
AAF serials were 41-37320 to 41-37469
I do not expect the serials were run in sequence.

Is there any particular a/c you seek?

All for now.

Alex
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2nd August 2005, 07:48
aradoar234 aradoar234 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: near Koblenz, Germany
Posts: 7
aradoar234 is on a distinguished road
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Hello Alex,

thanks for the informations. FD-serials are NA-91 Mustang Mk.IA's and c/n's are 91-11981 to 91-12130. Could be the Air Britain publication about RAF-serials helpfull? Have you ever seen this?

Holger
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2nd August 2005, 08:51
SteveB SteveB is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 360
SteveB is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Holger/Alex

Air Britain does not list c/ns. I guess the best place to go is the North American archives which are now held by Boeing in Seattle. Best of luck!

In his book "Mustang - the story of the P-51 fighter" Robert Gruenhagen lists the following:

NA73 73-3098 to 3416; 73-4767, 73-4768 and 73-7812 which seems to be 323 airframes? 73-3101 and 73-3107 were delivered to the USAAC for testing; perhaps other a/c were damaged/lost during testing?

NA83 83-4769 to 5068.

As Alex says there does not seem to be any published evidence one way or the other to indicate that c/ns and RAF serials ran in the same sequence.

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2nd August 2005, 22:02
Alex Smart Alex Smart is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 4,375
Alex Smart is on a distinguished road
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Hi Steve,

I beg to differ re Air Britain .

The Book that I mentioned does indeed give serial numbers (RAF) linked with where known serial numbers (USAAF).

e.g:
North American Mustang III (P51B)
Contract AC-33923 Requisition BSC 282
RAFserial AAF Serial
FX848 43-12113
FX849 43-12122

These and other aircraft link up's can as said be found in Air Britain's "The British Air Commission and Lend-Lease"
my copy cost me £29.00 plus p&p.

All the best

Alex
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2nd August 2005, 22:35
Alex Smart Alex Smart is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 4,375
Alex Smart is on a distinguished road
Re: RAF Mustang c/n's

Hello Steve and Holger,

If you seek the Manufacturer's serial numbers Steve then yes these do not appear in the Air Britain book.

A list is in Paul A Coggan's "Mustang Survivors" from page 199 to 201.
It includes Austrailian CA17 and 18's too.

This may be what you seek.

Mustang I 320 AG345/664 73-3098-3100 (3)
73-3102-3106 (5)
73-3108-3416 (309)
73-4767-4768 (2)
73-7812 (1)
----------------------------------------------------------------

Mustang I 300 AL958/999 83-4769-5068
AM100/257
AP164/263
-----------------------------------------------------
P51 150 41-37320-37351 91-11981-12130
USAAC purchased for RAF.
41-37352/37420 2 as XP51B
41-37422/37469
--------------------------------------------------------
As I noted in earlier posting I do notexpect that the serial numbers ran in sequence .

All for now.

Alex
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
German claims and Allied losses May 1940 Laurent Rizzotti Allied and Soviet Air Forces 2 19th May 2010 11:13
Thunderbolts and Mustangs versus the Jagdwaffe (split topic) Ruy Horta Allied and Soviet Air Forces 98 9th August 2007 16:22
Fighter pilots' guts Hawk-Eye Allied and Soviet Air Forces 44 8th April 2005 14:25
56th FG - friendly fire case on 4 May 1943 - info needed Lagarto Allied and Soviet Air Forces 28 12th March 2005 23:33
Did 138 Sqn or 161 Sqn RAF use RAF Christchurch in 1943-44? Larry Allied and Soviet Air Forces 3 2nd February 2005 08:26


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 00:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net