Loss 18 June 1940

[dahiot daniel]

Hello,

I am looking for additional information on the loss of Ju 88, 18 June 1940.
9./LG 1. (FF) Oblt. Schaumann.
Obrst. Bülowius Alfred.

I have his two crew members. At least three or four men?
Ju 88 WNr ?

[Andreas Brekken]

Hello, Daniel

This is what I have on this incident:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=135825

You will probably have to locate other sources to fill in the gaps.

Regards,
Andreas

[Larry Hickey]

Daniel,

Here is what our EOE DB entry, via Peter Cornwell says:

"June 18, 1940: 9./LG1 Junkers Ju88A-1. Shot down by AA fire west of Brest. FF Oberlt Friedrich-Wilhelm Schaumann (Staffelkapitän), BO Oberst Alfred Bülowius (Geschwaderkommodore) both captured wounded, two crewmen captured unhurt – all later released. Aircraft 100% write-off."

Nothing significantly different from what Andreas has. We still don't have the names of the other two crewmen, which we'd much like to document. Also, don't know the extent of the injuries to the two officers.

Have you located any photos of the wreck of this aircraft?

Regards,

[dahiot daniel]

Hi

Thank you both for your responses.
I was surprised that for the Ju 88 crew was composed of only two officers.
But I'm not surprised because from a narrative and witnesses still alive, there were only two men wounded near the Ju 88 loss at Pléneuf. (Brittany)
We found a copy of a photograph in a book, it is really very poor, we seek the original photo.

[Larry Hickey]

Daniel,

Will you keep me informed though this board or a PM if you are able to locate a usable photo of this crash?

Thanx,

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

There were four crewmembers onboard the aircraft, two officers as named, and two crewmembers of non-officer rank.

Daniel - how is the state of French archives with regards to records of German POW's taken during this period?

Regards,
Andreas B

[Laurent Rizzotti]

As on 18 June 1940 the French Forces were evacuating Brest, and the Germans entered the city the next day, I wonder if a report was issued at all by the French.

A possible source will be the local gendarmerie, that was often involved in searching and capturing downed aviators. I don't know if the gendarmes will be evacuated or ordered to remain at their post at this time of the campaign.

But given that the Germans occupied the area one or two days after the loss of the Ju 88 it is also possible that both crew evaded capture.

[Laurent Rizzotti]

I spoke a little too fast.

The following link, in French, is about this Ju 88 and tells that the crew were captured and mishandled by the French crowd. They were liberated after the arrival of the German troops and on 22 June came back to the site where they were beaten and two men, probably innocent, were arrested. One was later shot by a firing squad while the other was deported.

Source:
http://absa39-45.forumpro.fr/la-luft...-1940-t295.htm

I will now guess that there should be a trace of this in gendarmerie reports, and maybe German papers about the process survived too.

Best regards

Laurent