V(Z)/LG1 and 27.9.40

[Dean M. Wick]

Good afternoon: I have been looking into the Zerstorer action on the morning of 27.9.40 in which V(Z)/LG1 suffered very heavy losses. While the bulk of the action is well known, I have a few questions I was hoping someone could help with:
1) The 10 Bf110's V(Z)/LG1 were accompanied on this mission by 13 Bf110's of Stab,II and III/ZG76. Does anyone know if any claims were made by these units? The Woods list does not show any for II/ZG76. What about Stab and III/ZG76? After screening RAF losses for this time frame (1015-1045 German time) I found potentially(?) 5 lost, 4 forcelanded and 3 damaged that may have involved bf110's.
2) While Eimansbergers work details very clearly the V(Z)/LG1 crews involved this date, both the Woods list and Taghons work on LG1 show victory claims, among others, by Gefr. Max(?) Weniger and a Gefr. (first name?) Brendel, neither of which I can find any evidence that they flew that day.
Any comments on these, or any further information anyone may be willing to share would be most welcome. Regards. Dean

[robert]

Hi,

V.(Z)/LG1 claimed five kills during this combat, three of them were by BFs.
III./ZG76 claimed on this day in total 10 kills but I don`t know how many during the morning mission and how many later.

Regards

Robert

[Dean M. Wick]

Hi Robert, thanks for your comments. Since my initial post I've been doing a little more browsing and noted that John and Peter, in their book "Zerstorer" state that V(Z)/LG1 lost "7 of 13" aircraft, instead of the 7 of 10 stated by Eimannsberger. Perhaps this would account for the claims by Brendel and Weniger, as they don't show up on the mission list in Eimannsberger's work. You don't happen to know how many aircraft III/ZG76 supplied out of ZG76's total of 13? I think this number included 2 from Stab/ZG76. Thanks again. Dean.

[Kapper]

Dean,

Gefr Max Weniger was the regular Bf for Ltn. Ernst Schmidt 13(Z)/LG1, they were lost together on 23 Mar 1941 after the unit became I./NJG3.

I'm not sure about Gefr. Brendel but I have a note that says it was Brenkel? I didn't record where I got that from. If Brenkel, then it could be another one of these misinterpretations from the hand written microfilms on the Tony Woods files

Regards,

Craig...

[Dean M. Wick]

Good afternoon: Craig, thanks for your comments. Although this may be of little consequence, I have noted that John Foreman and Theo Boiten, in thier respective works on nightfighters, give credit for a victory on the night of 7-8 sept.41 to certain Uffz. Wolfgang Brendel of 3/NJG3. I/NJG3 was of course the former V(Z)/LG1. Robert, I'm curious if, like me, you attribute Brendel's claim on 27.9.40, as a bordfunker due to his rank? I note that Pilot Hans Swietlik, of 13(Z)/LG1, KIA that same day, was a Gefr. as well. Is this possibly then the same Brendel, subsequently promoted to Uffz.? I am not making any assumptions here, just curious if there may be a connection. Any comments welcomed. Cheers Dean.

[robert]

There is no Gefr. Brendel in my file.

Regards

Robert