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claim 1 december 1943 by 56th FG
Hi,
Can someone please help me in finding information about this USAAF claim?. Claim 01.12.43 Lt. J.D. Foster 56th FG 61st Sqn. 1 - 0 - 0 FW 190 12.12-40: Beverloo I am especially looking for the name/unit of the german pilot who was downed in his FW 190. Thanks for any assistance! Martin |
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![]() Hello Martin ,
i have these two Fw190 lost in Belgium on december 1 1943. Unfortenally the crashsite is not in the neightbourhood of Beverlo. 01/12/1943 Gooik Fw-190 A-6 WNr-470035 11./JG 2 Ofw Schneidewind Fritz (WND ) 01/12/1943 Vieux-Genappe Fw-190 A-6 WNr-530127 Stab./JG 2 Reagrds Alain57 |
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Re: claim 1 december 1943 by 56th FG
Alain ,
P - 47 Pilot Lt. Justus D. Foster 56th FG , 61st Sq. FW 190 Destroyed 1/12/43 - Beverloo From Book - Fighter Units and Pilots of the 8th AF, Day to Day Operations by Kent Miller Mike |
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Re: claim 1 december 1943 by 56th FG
A few others from that day. Without digging out a map, I have no idea where the locations are in relation to Beverloo. If I'm interpreting the claim you listed correctly, the times for Mohn & Scheidewind crashes are about right at 11.45 (assuming German vs UK time), and where the plane crashed could be a long way from where it was hit (also assuming pilot wasn't staring the thing into the ground). However, overall I'd take Alain's word as to location relative to Beverloo.
Fw 190A-6, 530930, Mohn, Uffz. Martin, , III., 11., JG 2, , , , , 01-Dec-43, KIA due to Luftkampf., , Lfl.3/Eins.Westen, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, X.4, p.509; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.18, , 22km westsüdwestlich Brüssel, 100%, F, , 11.45, Fw 190A-5, 710007, Liper, Ofw. Benno, , II., 4., JG 1, , , , , 01-Dec-43, Luftkampf. FSA., WNr. 410007 per loss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/RLV, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, X.2, p.145; Prien & Rodeike, JG 1 & 11, I, p.616, , bei Arnsberg, 100%, F, , , Fw 190A-6, 550573, n.n., , II., II., JG 26, , , , , 01-Dec-43, Notlandung due to Luftkampf., , Lfl.3/Eins.Westen, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, X.4, p.563, , Fl.Pl. Eindhoven, 20%, F, , , |
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Re: claim 1 december 1943 by 56th FG
Hello,
The FW 190, which crashed near Vieux-Genappe (near the "Bruyère des Berlus" hamlet), seems to be the victim of an English fighter (as told by the slight injured pilot to a local witness). However this testimony needs to be taken with care. Uffz. Helmut Johanning (8./JG 1)'s Bf 109 made a forcred landing (damaged at 75 %)near Mol too, which is nearer Beverloo. Genappe & Gooik are at about 80 km from Beverloo. However, they are much more losses that day. Best regards ClinA-78 |
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