3/JG 77 Pilots 1940

[Chris Goss]

Either I cannot see for looking but does anyone have any more details on Oblt Hopp who was apparently killed (with JG 51?)and Oblt Günther Beise who got just one kill but survived the war?

[Matti Salonen]

1941-11-15, 2./JG 51, Bf 109F-2, 9230, 2 schw, Raum südlich Talzy, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Hopp, Hans, vermißt

Matti

[Johannes]

Hi Chris

Hans Hopp made one claim a SB-3 on 23rd October 1941 at 1302 hrs as a Leutnant with 2./Jg51 He was born in 1920 and went missing in combat with Russian aircraft South of Talzy on 15th November 1941.

Gunther Biese made two claims:-

10th October 1940 3./Jg77 Blemheim South of folkestone at 1848hrs
30th August 1941 St./Jg51 I-15 East of Scheschimskaja at 1728hrs and 1200 metres altitude.

Both as an Oberleutnant

Regards

Johannes

[Chris Goss]

Thanks but not 100% sure about Hopp as according to a contemporary I/JG 77 documents, its says in Summer of 1940 he was an Oblt with 3 Staffel.

Another mystery is Oblt Köterisch with Stab I/JG 77-cannot find him as well

[Jim P.]

Is the name Beise or Biese? I have Beise in my claims file.

[Miguel]

Hi Chris,

This is what I have got for Günther Beise after surfing through different JFV volumes:

41.03.xx to 41.06.15 Staka 1/ErgänzG/JG51
41.06.15 to 41.08.01 Stab/ErgänzG/JG51
41.08.01 to ?? Stab/JG51
42.09.xx to 43.03.31 GK I/JG1
43.04.01 to 43.04.15 GK II/JG11

No information afterwards.

There are two victories recorded in JFV:

40.10.10 at 18.48h Blenheim South of Folkestone
41.08.30 at 17.28h I-15 East of Sechtsjinskaja

Hope this is useful.

Regards

[Johannes]

Hi Chris

Regarding Hans Hopp

It was definately he who made the claim with 2./JG51 on 23rd October 1941, but as a Leutnant, so could be a different guy than your Oberleutnant with JG77. Demotion did happen, but rarely, and usually more than just a single drop!

Regards

Johannes

[christian]

Hi Chris

I think it was Oblt. Gerhard Ködderitzsch from the Stabskompanie I./JG 77. He died on the 15. Mai 1941 in a crash in Lübeck-Blankensee as Kapitän of the 1.Staffel I./JG 54.

Greetings Christian