Heinkel 111 B

[Tolesa]

Hello all, i have a big trouble and need help someone of you. I have ID plate of plane and some others things signed with Fl. I have it from my granddaddy and I want to know more about this plane. Our archives have not got no infos about it. Plain crashed at Isergebirge in Sudetenland in 1942. Can anybody help me, please? I don ´t know how i can give pict here... My mail Tolesa@seznam.cz

[gilles collaveri]

hello Tolesa,

I would suggest you write down the maximum information about what you have:
- what is writen on the plate,
- the date of crash if you have it,
- the place,
- whatever you have in your possesion,

and, best of all,
- a picture. It is not so difficult to insert (I managed to do it, so you see..) just read carefully the instructions,
this will help a a lot.

Cheers.

GC

[stephen f. polyak]

I am posting additional information on behalf of Tolesa, hoping that further details about this loss may be revealed.

About crashed airplane: in 1941 in Sudetenland, Reichenberg, Isergebirge- Tafelfichte.

Airframe plates (pictured).

1-Ernst Heinkel, Flugzeugwerke, Rostock, Typ HE 111 B, W.Nr. A.FL.377L., Abnahmedatum H1?1 BAL 171.

2- ERNST HEINKEL, Flugzeugwerke, Rostock, Typ HE 111, W.Nr. 396, Abnahmedatum H165, 6.39, BAL 177.

Thank you,
Steve

[Tolesa]

Many thank to you Stephen,
I am very wonder of photo gave in our country to magazine (W.Nr.2127 when this plane crashed in Germany and no in our mountains like our ,,experts,, wrote... one of them is alleged finder of this plate)...¨
So, I am still in questions of my grandfather´s plates as you know... What means W.Nr. on it and what airplain they are from?

[gilles collaveri]

On behalf on Tolesa, I post additional information on this aircraft, hoping somebody can bring some light:

there are parts with markings "FL" as listed herunder:

Fl. 26779 (piece of metal)
Fl. 46162 (piece of iron)
Fl. 27133 (piece of metal)
and a little plate with the size of a coin:
Fl. 28365 or 28305 or 28386
Gerat Nr. 127
Werk Nr. 51491
Anfordez. Fl 28xxx
Herst. Gebruder Borghammer Schramberg


then I attach a picture of a part: what can it be ?

Looking forward to your comments;.

GC

[stephen f. polyak]

Yet a bit more information on behalf of Tolesa, hoping to uncover more on the history of this event...

Two people died in the accident at Sudetenland Isergebirge at 22 (?).6. 1941 (preferably loss during all months, maybe also at month 6/1942). One of them could be Adolf Formann. (?)

Does that name relate to a crewman killed in a He111 mishap?

[gilles collaveri]

Tolesa,

you can at

http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-8...79380-849.html

concerning the "FL" marked parts

best regards

GC

[Matti Salonen]

1941-06-17, Stabsst./KG 53, He 111P-2, 2127, A1+MS, Westseite des Kupferberges bei Neustadt bei Reichenberg, Absturz infolge unfreiwilliger Bodenberührung um 19.00 Uhr. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Müller, Hayo, +
Beobachter Uffz Janissen, Peter, +
Bordfunker Fw Abe, Hans, +
Fluggast Fw Schormann, Adolf, +
Fluggast Uffz Schumacher, Fritz, +

Matti

[Tolesa]

Many thanks. Is it the place true with absolutely sure?

[Tolesa]

Matti, very many thank to you. Where are came from your infos, please? Do you know from what parts of plain are my id plates? Best regards. Tolesa.