claims of several german pilots

[GMichalski]

Someone has information about the claims of these pilots:
August Lambert
Hans Dammers
Kurt Tanzer
Leopold Steinbatz
Max Stotz
Walther Dahl
Hans Philipp
Hartmann Grasser

On the other hand, ¿where i find the complete claims of the Zerstörergeschwader and Nachtjagdgeschwader.?
email: kreator1989@hotmail.com
regards.

[Leo Etgen]

Hello

The most complete reference for Jagdwaffe claims are the lists included in the various volumes of Die Jagdfliegerverbände Der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 Bis 1945 by Jochen Prien, Gerhard Stemmer, Peter Rodeike and Winfried Bock. This is a work in progress, though, so we will have to wait for future volumes to begin to have complete lists of victories for various aces. Regarding Nachtjagd claims the best source is The Nachtjagd War Diaries by Theo Boiten and Rod McKenzie. I am not aware of any definitive source regarding claims by the Zerstörer units. Of the aces that you have listed I only have complete lists for Steinbatz (99), Grasser (103) and Philipp (206). Regarding Dahl, I have seen various figures for his final victory claim total as it appears that there is considerable doubt that the generally accepted number of 128 is correct. I currently have him credited with 102 victories but this number may well be revised depending on future information. The generally accepted victory totals for the other aces that you listed are: Lambert (116), Dammers (113), Tanzer (128 or 143) and Stotz (189).

Horrido!

Leo

[Johannes]

Hi Guys

Lamberts total is definatly 103 as confirmed by a KBT document, also the last was not Russian. I found 183 for Stotz, this also matches the 183 quoted for him at a units museum. Dammers is 103, Tanzer unknown, but probably about 50, Steinbatz is 99, Grasser at least 96.....plus possibly more with Zg units!, Philipp(by memory) 195(several more u/c/) Dahl less than 100...depends on his 1945 Russian claims, but much less in the West than is generally excepted!

Regards

Johannes

[GMichalski]

hello,
thank you very much, I'm trying to complete some German claims of several squadrons like JG5 and Zerstörer because
although i have as 80-90% of the claims in general, the info of this squadrons its very incomplete....

Moreover i searching information to complete the claims of important pilots like this.
Johannes, next week i will send a mail with claims of pilots that does not appear in your excel. ¿? (Carganico and Ehrler)

If you need info of some claims of the german pilots send me a mail and i search if i have the info.

kind regards.

[GMichalski]

Hi,
i´m searching now for this pilots of JG5 to complete more claims:

Karl NEUMANN 75 JG5, JG7
Hermann SEGATZ 40 Stab II./JG51, 4./JG26, JG5, II./JG1
Fritz STENDEL 39 2./JG20, JG51, IV./JG5
August LUEBKING 38 9./JG5, Stab III./JG7 22/03/1945
August LUY 35 JG5
Rudolf GLOECKNER 32 6, 8 & 11./JG5
Franz WEISS 31 JG5
Willi PFRAENGER 30 (Pfränger) 6/JG5 POW 7/05/42 Bf.109F-4 WkNr 10177. Claimed by B.F. Safonov
Friedrich DAHN 26 JG5 25/05/1942 MIA.
Florian SALWENDER 25 JG77, JG5 POW 1942, DOW.
Martin VILLING 21 10./JG5
Kurt SCHULZE 20 JG5

and the last, out of this squadron, Heinrich Bär-> i have over 225 claims
but i don´t know wich are unconfirmed

[GMichalski]

uuff its a hard work.....and more:

Hans TETZNER 20 R.Toliver-T.Constable 5./JG5 19/07/1944 KIA
Felix-Maria BRANDIS 18 P. Kacha Zerst./JG77, JG5 02/02/1942 Zerstoerer ace
Ludwig SCHARF 18 JG5 POW 1942
Dietrich WEINITSCHKE 18 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5 POW 1943.
Josef SUSKE 17 T.Wood Claims lists (all confirmed?) 7 & 10./JG5
Arthur BETH 16 R.Toliver-T.Constable 7./JG5
Heinrich DREISBACH 16 R.Toliver-T.Constable 10./JG5
Hans-Joachim (Dieter?) HARTWEIN 16 I./JG77, Stab I./JG5 21/08/1942 MIA.
Josef KUNZ 16 8./JG5 14/01/1945 DOW
Heinz BIRK 14 R.Toliver-T.Constable 10./JG5
Reinhold FIEDLER 14 JG5
Helmut KISCHNICK 14 5 & 9./JG5
Werner GAYKO 13 R.Toliver-T.Constable 7 & 9./JG5
Heinz HALSTRICK 13 R.Toliver-T.Constable 10 & 13./JG5
Heinz HELSTRICK 13 JG5
Anton SCHOEPPLER 13 P. Kacha (more?) 3./JG5, 3./JG7
Uffz Franz (Karl?) DEGNER 12 6./JG5
Erhardt MECKE 12 R.Toliver-T.Constable 6./JG5 14/02/1945 KIA.
Wolfgang ROST 12 R.Toliver-T.Constable 8./JG5
Walter FEISER 11 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5
Josef KAISER 11 JG5
Rudolf KURPIERS 11 13.(Z)JG5, ZG26
Robert MÜLLER 11 JG5
Ltn August SCHNEIDER 11 R.Toliver-T.Constable 5./JG5
Oblt Hans SCHNEIDER 11 JG5 12/03/1945 MIA.
Hans VOLLET 11 R.Toliver-T.Constable 7./JG5
Erich BEULICH 10 J. Perry 7./JG5
Alfred JAKOBI 10 R.Toliver-T.Constable 13 & 6./JG77, II./JG5 09/04/1942 Bf-109, Norway, 1941-42. MIA
Guenther SCHWANECKE 10 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG77, 4./JG5

when i finished the complete jg5 claims, i will share with all...
regards

[GMichalski]

thanks for help me

Ltn Alfred JAKOBI 10 R.Toliver-T.Constable 13 & 6./JG77, II./JG5 09/04/1942 Bf-109, Norway, 1941-42. MIA.
Ltn Rudolf METZ 10 E.Mombeek 1./JG5,IV./JG5,Sturmst.1,11./JG3, 6./JG4 06/10/1944 Sturm pilot, 1944. 5
Oblt Guenther SCHWANECKE 10 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG77, 4./JG5
Uffz Hermann AMEND 9 J. Perry 9./JG5 05/08/1944 KIA. 7
Fw Bruno BUZZI 9 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5
Uffz Heinz ELBRACHT 9 JG5
Ltn KAEPPLER 9 T.Wood Claims lists (all confirmed?) 2 & 15./JG5
Uffz Arthur MENDL 9 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5
Uffz Horst OBERLANDER 9 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5 20/07/1943 KIA
- ¿? STAKELJAHN 9 JG5, SG4
Fw Heinrich-Friedrich WIEGAND 9 R.Toliver-T.Constable 9./JG5
Oblt Lorenz ANDRESEN 8 J. Perry 9./JG5 20/07/1944 Eastern front, spring 44. KIA.
Oblt Heinrich LESCH 8 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5
Oblt Karl-Friedrich SCHLOSSTEIN 8 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG77, JG5 Zerstörer pilot.
Ofw Ernst SCHULZE 8 T.Wood Claims lists (all confirmed?, more?) 8./JG5
Ltn Hans-Joachim BAHR 7 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5 13/07/1942 MIA (AA fire).
Ltn Guenter EICHHORN 7 R.Toliver-T.Constable 7./JG5 POW, 1943.
Ltn Walter GEISEN 7 JG5 22/06/1943 MIA.
Karl MUNDING 7 JG5
Ltn Bernhard VON HERMANN 7 T.Wood Claims lists 8./JG5
regards

[GMichalski]

sorry johannes, i don´t find any information of Franz Weiss...
31 claims JG5....¿?
regards

[KrisJG3]

Originally Posted by GMichalski

thanks for help me


Ltn Hans-Joachim BAHR 7 R.Toliver-T.Constable JG5 13/07/1942 MIA (AA fire).

regards

Look:
Hans-Joachim Bahr
''...Leutnant Bahr Served from 24.10.1940 with various fighter units: III/Jagdgeschwader 2 "Richthofen", Ergänzungs Jagdgruppe 2, IV/ Jagdgeschwader 1, I and III/Jagdgeschwader 5 "Eismeer". He was killed on 13.7.1942 by Russian Flak whilst flying a Bf 109E-7 near the Njal Sea. He achieved 8 victories in 74 combat missions. ...''

Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/war_..._documents.htm

There is small pice of his Soldbuch.

[Nick Hector]

Are there any plans to post the complete victory lists from Dr. Prien's books on the internet in the manner of the Tony Wood claims lists?