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Old 3rd December 2012, 19:29
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Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

Allo!

I came back from Oberammergau (Bayern) where I met some witnesses of one - but possibly two - crash(es) at one day apart. As often, precise info's lack and testimonies are quite messy.

A lady remembered a dogfight between two fighters, resulting in the fall of an allied aircraft (the pilot was a 'black' man as said!). The next day, a US bomber crashed in the area (where?) with at least one casualty.
I was shown the crash area in Moors lands, North of Oberammergau.

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On the 18th July 44, at least 03 P-51 of 332nd FG were lost in the area of Kempten (escort for Memmingen A/F bombing); which is not very far from O'gau.
The next day, a B-24 (42-52401) from 760th BS was lost near Kelschau (NE of O'gau) with the navigator dead.

I am wondering if it could be one of those P-51 (Hutton, Irving or Browne) lost on the 18/07/44 which crashed in Oberammergau?

Moreover it seems there is a claim for a P-51 by Uffz. Hans HAHN of 3./JG 300 on the 18/07/44 at 10.50 near Staffelsee which is roughly 15 km NE from O'gau.

Has a 'local' researcher investigated in that particular loss?

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Old 4th December 2012, 02:15
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

It could Lt. Gene C. Browne who belly landed his Mustang after being shot down by a BF-109 and became a POW. Lt. Washington Irving was KIA in aerial combat. Lt Oscar D. Hutton was killed in a accident when his Mustang was hit by a belly tank dropped from another plane while flying northeast of Venice headed for home base.
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Old 4th December 2012, 07:27
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

Hi Kaki,

No, the aircraft dived into the soggy ground, making a crater; that is sure.

Should we consider Irving's crash? Unfortunately, I don't know if this pilot (or airman) involved really survived...
Perhaps witness mistook the 'black man' for a wounded (burnt) POW of the B-24 crew?

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Old 4th December 2012, 12:40
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

2nd Lt Wellington G. Irving is reported KIA on wwiimemorial.com.

Perhaps interesting to read: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...27992bc8b.html

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Old 4th December 2012, 14:22
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

I would say it was Lt. Washington Irving.
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Old 4th December 2012, 16:24
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

So MIA or KIA?
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Old 5th December 2012, 12:46
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

No Lt W.G. Irving (be it Washington or Wellington) on the DTIC MIA list.
He's reported KIA on the wwiimemorial list.

See http://www.tuskegee.edu/Uploads/file...egeeAirmen.pdf

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Old 5th December 2012, 16:29
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

whoops, wrote Washington instead of Wellington,
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

http://vicksburgdailynews.com/2012/0...vicksburg-tie/
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Re: Oberammergau crash - 332nd FG involved ?

Oops too quick:

Has a marker but still MIA... It becomes interesting.
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