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Old 7th April 2013, 20:49
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
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The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

7 and 8 April 1941 the Yugoslav Blenheim I of VVKJ attacked Hungarian villages. The attack was done by 10 bombers (other sources say 12 or even 14 aircraft?) on 7.04.41.
Maybe someone knows what on earth were among the losses caused by the attack Hungarians?

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Old 9th April 2013, 07:58
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

Hello Mirek,
The following is taken from an early issue of an Air Enthusiast bi-monthly magazine.

"7 April, the 1st Regiment was fully committed - in company with the 3rd and 7th - to attack the most threatening of the German columns advancing from the Bulgarian frontier towards Skoplje. Ordered to attack armoured vehicles between Krive Palanka and Stracin, the Blenheims operated in three-aircraft elements, at intervals of 30 minutes. Some hits were observed, but heavy flak and small arms fire took their toll; the aircraft flown by the CO of the 204. eskadrila was destroyed and three others made forced landings, so that only 18 Blenheims remained available for further operations by the 1st Regiment.
Much worse befell the 8th Regiment on this day. Based too far away from the Bulgarian frontier to join with the other bomber units, its Blenheims were again directed to operate over South Austria. In very poor weather, only one or two of the bombers found suitable targets, the others returning to Rovine with their bombs intact; one Blenheim made an emergency landing near Graz. Later in the day, 12 Blenheims set out again to strike at Railroad junctions and Military installations in the region of the Hungarian towns of Pecz and Szeged. Again lacking fighter protection, six of the Blenheims were shot down by Bf109E's of II/JG54, two more being destroyed as they landed and three being seriously damaged. The CO's of both Grupa and of both Eskadrila of the 68th Grupa were among those killed, one of the commanders succeeding in shooting down a BF109 shortly before his Blenheim crashed. After this massacre, the 8th bomber regiment was virtually out of action for the remainder of the conflict, although a few more sorties were flown on 8th April without further loss.
On 8th April eight Blenheims of 62 Grupa set out from Bijelina to attack German armour, as on the previous day, but only one three-aircraft element found the target in the Kacanik gorge, in extremely unfavourable weather with low clouds, rain and snow. Making a low-level attack in single file on the Panzer column, the first and third Blenheims were shot down, costing the life of the commander of the 1st Bomber Regiment, Pukovnik (Colonel) Ferdo Gradisnik - the only JKRV officer of this rank to lose his life during the April war. Another Blenheim from this mission was lost in an emergency landing at its home base. Better results were obtained by the 10 Blenheims of 61 Grupa which attacked the same target later that day from higher altitude, achieving hits and returning without loss. Five aircraft of 11 Grupa attacked targets in the same area losing one Blenheim to flak and a Hind that crashed in bad weather during the return to Veliki Radinci."

I know this only deals with Yugoslav Blenheims and not other bombers ( 60 or so Do17's and 26 or so S79's ) of the Yugoslav A/F but I hope this is of some help to you.
For a more comprehensive account I suggest you try to get a copy of Grub Streets "Air War for Yugoslavia Greece and Crete" by Shores , Cull and Malizia.
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Old 9th April 2013, 17:08
Mirek Wawrzynski Mirek Wawrzynski is offline
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

Hi thanks for this infor
BTW, it is Air Enthusiast no 16? This is old source with some errors. "Air War over ..." I have for many years (about 20), fundamental but also some errors you may find too.

There is an error in my opinion - 5./JG 54 had claimed 5 not 6 Blenhiems I over Hungary, next 2 were claimed by Hungarian A/A.

This time air operations of Do 17Ks of 3 Air Bomber Regiment are "excluded" from this post. Very interesting indeed, and the crews had fought to the end and even later (2 Do 17 K had landed in Egypt). Thay had attacked a few times Bulkgarian soil (Sofia and next places).

Interesting are operations over Hungary and their impact on the "ground" and Hungarian, most probably not so deadly for civils as over Bulgaria by Do 17 Ks?

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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

Gentlemans,

You can find the book 'Dornier Do 17, The Yugoslav Story, Operational Record 1937-1947' by Boris Ciglic and Dragan Savic, published in 2007. In that book described every known flight of RYAF Do 17 bomber in April 1941.

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Old 10th April 2013, 18:57
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

The book is know for me, I have it, this is different question. One thing is Do 17s other one Blenhiems. This is not the same. The flight had attacked also differents targets too. There are a very few info about Blenheims in this book (Do 17), which is very good indeed.
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

The air raids were ineffective against Szeged and Pécs both. There were few wounded civilians, some building damages and little damages on the railway station at Szeged.

It was a stunningly costly mission of the Blenheims. Incidentally, not just the JG 54 and the Hugarian anti-aircraft artillery engaged the attackers, but I./ZG 26 as well.
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Old 19th April 2013, 21:07
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

Csaba have you any claims by I/ZG 26? It is probably that one Blenheim was shot down by Me 110 or Me 110s?
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

The emergency landing near Graz is reported on April 6th, 1941 after being hit by flak. It caused a leakage in the fuel system and forced the crew to an emergency landing northeast of Graz. The faith of the crew and aircraft is unknow. Yugoslav bomber reached 6 to 7 times Austrian territory. Kurtl
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Old 12th June 2013, 19:53
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The emergency landing near Graz is reported on April 6th, 1941 after being hit by flak. It caused a leakage in the fuel system and forced the crew to an emergency landing northeast of Graz. The faith of the crew and aircraft is unknow. Yugoslav bomber reached 6 to 7 times Austrian territory. Kurtl
Thanks Kurtl, I have heard this,
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Re: The effectiveness of the Yugoslav Bomber attacks on Hungary 7 April 1941...

Any additional details on that case? I have found nothing on the other raids against Austria and would be interested. Thanks
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