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Old 24th January 2005, 16:16
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Bulgarian Ar 196 A-3

Hi guys!
My name is Yves, I live in Toronto and since years I'm trying to track the history of the 12 Arados Ar 196 A-3 delivered to Bulgaria in spring/summer 1943. No other country received officially (or unofficially) this beautiful plane during and after the W.W.II. Today the only preserved A-3 (built in Germany) is in the Bulgarian Air force Museum (The 2 Ar 196 A-5 in the USA were built in Holland).
I have a lot of informations about the 12 and have contacted many famous historians and authors in Germany (Koos, Kranzhoff,Cohaucz,Selinger , etc.) in the last 5-8 years looking for every minor detail possible.
Do you have any further information?
I'll welcome everything you can send and try to answer everything you want to know.
8 years ago I've posted a readers letter in "Jet Prop" about the preserved Ar 196 in Bulgaria with some wrong conclusions of mine. In the meantime many of them changed and I'm pretty sure I already have some unic informations. But nobody knows everything!
So if you believe you have something interesting, please write me.
I'm ready to share original and after war photos of Ar 196 in Bulgarian duty.
By the way, here are the Werknummern of the 12 aircrafts :
0219, 0244, 0245, 0247, 0252, 0253, 0255, 0256, 0257, 0258, 0261, 0262 - do you have any source with WNr. of the produced Ar 196? (The preserved aircraft is WNr.0219).

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Old 24th January 2005, 19:43
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Re: Bulgarian Ar 196 A-3

Yves, did you saw photo of Bulgarian Ar 196 captured by Soviet troops? It was published in Russian book "Gidrosamolyety i ekranoplany Rossii" by G.F. Petrov with wrong caption "Seized German Ar-196 at Tchaika lake".
On foreground plane 3/7096 is visible, on background another one, probably "white 5".

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Old 24th January 2005, 21:16
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Bulgarian Ar 196

I have that photo. It indeed shows a pair of Bulgarian Ar 196s. However, it's not clear if the Soviets actually transported these to the USSR. I think not.

BTW, Rumania also reportedly received Ar 196s in mid-1944, but it was too late to impress the type in service.

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P.S. Lake Chaika is in Bulgaria.
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Old 25th January 2005, 01:17
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Thanks Peter!

Dear Peter,
Thanks for your information. The photo you write about is published in “See-Mehrzweckflugzeug Arado Ar 196” by Hans-Peter Dabrowski und Volker Koos.
Back in 1996 I contacted Dr. Volker Koos in Germany and he answered me, that the original photo he received from Russia and he was pretty sure the photo is done by a soviet officer. The red army entered Bulgaria on Sept.3 1944. After that and till the end of the WWII in May 1945 Bulgaria fought against Germany. The Arados were neither captured nor used by the soviets. In the last part of the war they did not take part in any military action but were still in use till 1953.
Are you sure the plane Nr. on the photo you know is 3/7096 and not 3/7069?
By the way the preserved aircraft in Bulgaria today is shown as Nr 3 (in fact it was Nr.1).
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Old 7th February 2005, 23:19
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Re: Thanks Peter!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yves Marino
Are you sure the plane Nr. on the photo you know is 3/7096 and not 3/7069?
Yves, photo in book I've mentioned is quite sharp and number is clearly visible both on canopy and engine covers. I can scan it and send to you.
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Old 7th February 2005, 23:31
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Perhaps someone can offer an explanation for these:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...&rd=1&tc=photo

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...&rd=1&tc=photo

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Old 8th February 2005, 18:53
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Ar 196 with soviet stars

Don, this is an unique photo, showing an Arado 196 on board of the "Admiral Sheer". She took part at the operation "Wonderland" in August 1942 in Kara sea and sunk 2 soviet ships.
A part of the operational tasks was to capture enemy ships with any secret information possible.
In the middle part of the photo where the Ar 196 is shown from above,
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...&rd=1&tc=photo
you can recognise the German Navy flag. So it's not a captured german plane but a trick used in a military mission.
The soviet planes from the period of the WWII don't have stars on the upper surfaces of the wings as here. You can also see the overpainted crosses.
Take a look at the beautifull colour photos of "Admiral Sheer" with her Arado at
http://www.admiralscheer.de/
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Old 8th February 2005, 19:05
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Yves,

Thank you for that information,

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