He 177 aircraft with KG1 crashed in the near flugplatz Wormditt.

[Robcio]

Welcome.



Referring to post No. 16 dated 25.05.2013 - Flugplatz Wormiditt:
" The second fell in the vicinity of Lubomino / ARNSDORF (5km south), 15km southeast of the airport Wormditt. Right between the villages of PETERSDORF and SCHWENKITTEN, Near Lake Tonka / DITTRICHSDORFER SEA. Was passed, it may be Ju88, He 117
My assumption may be misleading. "
After the identification part of the remains of the aircraft, we believe</SPAN> that this was the plane He 177.
The confirmation of the data that these aircraft were operated by KG1. This unit was based in East Prussia:
1. Stab KG1: 06/08/1944 - 07/21/1944 Prowehren
07.21.1944 - 08.1944 Seerappen

2. 2/KG 1: 08.06.1944 - 08.1944 Prowehren

Data from: http://www.feldgrau.com/KG1.htm

During this period, aircraft and stick KG1 2/KG1 engaged in raids on important facilities in Russia. Perhaps their flight route can be ran near Wormditt.

With Prowehren to Wormditt is about 60 km.


Please kindly help in obtaining information about falls this aircraft He 177
Today, Wormditt (East Prussia) is named Orneta (Poland).
Thanks in advance for your help
Regards
Robert

[Brian Bines]

Robert I have this - HE177A5 V4+IN 5/KG1 372619 28-7-1944 crashed following engine fire in area of Prowehren. FF Ltn Erich Hillig, B Uffz Theodor JOrissen, Bf Fw Bruno KOniger,Bm Uffz Rudof BOhm, Bs Ogef Konrad Baum, Bs Ogef Kurt POthe all killed ( capital O's are Umlauts).There was also V4+CN fell to Russian fighters on 28-7-44 S/W Eleja, and V4+IS crashed Buchwal/ Pommern on 1-8-1944,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Robcio]

Brian
Thank you for the information. I think it will be a difficult topic to explain.
The data you have bestowed on aircraft from another region than the region Wormditt.
Do you have other information about the losses the KG1? Perhaps the other gruppen (1/KG1, 3/KG1, 4/KG1) sent their planes to Stab/KG1 or 2/KG1.
Perhaps He177 aircraft flew only occasionally after 08.1944r? After 08.1944 disbanded KG1 and renamed JG7 .
JG7 equipped aircraft Me262.
He177 aircraft could operate flights from airports around Koningsberg (Kaliningrad, Russia) (from 08.1944)
Here's a link to the places where other aircraft are He177 (Siemiatycze, Poland)
http://www.forum.spotter.pl/heinkell-he-177-t4637/index.html?amp
and photographs of the crashed He 177 (area Wormditt)
http://www.forum.eksploracja.pl/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=28380&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=8ff9 8430a174a05ea7f69fadd0eb5a24&start=25

[Robcio]

Airport KG1 and place of crash He177

[Brian Bines]

Robert I did ask WAST for the NVMs for KG1 He177 losses, I had expected to get quite a few but this was not the case. The others I have include He177 of 4/KG1 crashed at Zardki on 15-6-44, the same day a He177 of 5/KG1 collided with a 177 of 6/KG1 with crash site given as 5km NNW der Strasse Siemiatycza nach Ciehanowiec. On 27-6-44 V4+EN was reported missing following take off from Fl.Pl Bobruisk while V4+LP crashed near Fl/Pl. Baranowitsche also on the 27-6-44. On 28-7-44 V4+PT fell to a Russian fighter N/W of Schaulen by Joniskis.
I am afraid that is all I have,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Karsten]

I have the following Wnr. for these machines.

V4 + IN 332 610
V4 + CN 332 351
V4 + IS 332 491
V4 + EN 332 366
V4 + LP 332 474
V4 + PT 332 229


01.08. 332 495
15.06 4./ KG 1 DW + CV 332 518
15.06 5./ KG 1 VD + XV 332 146

Source: Gerhard Baedeker: Kampfgeschwader1 "Hindenburg"

Regards Rüdiger