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Old 7th February 2014, 12:41
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Q: Markings on 11./KG200 FW190F-8

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It is fairly "common" knowledge that III/KG200 stayed in Stavanger/Sola for a short while, in February/March 1945. During this period they were working up for a BT700 attack, an attack that eventually was cancelled.
During this period 11./KG200 lost/damaged one FW190F-8 at Sola, Wknr 933064, flown by Gefr Josef Wupping. According to E. Knutsson it was marked < E.
I have also seen mentioned the loss of one FW190 off Denmark, same unit, that was marked < C (if I remember correctly).

Apparently (From other discussions on this forum) the aircraft of KG200 carried various markings. Any qualified guesses on what the marking < E (and C) could possibly mean?
My non-qualified points to ponder:
- Could they have been aircraft from I./SG5 (From which the unit 11./KG200 formed), still marked with typical SG-markings (maybe an E before the cross and a triangle behind it?
- Could the < be a typical adjutant chevron? In that case, would the chevron be right in front of the letter - all in front of the cross?

Any input on typical KG200 markings would be helpful.

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Old 7th February 2014, 16:08
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Re: Q: Markings on 11./KG200 FW190F-8

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During this period 11./KG200 lost/damaged one FW190F-8 at Sola, Wknr 933064, flown by Gefr Josef Wupping. According to E. Knutsson it was marked < E.
The 11. Staffel's pilots were in Germany by the third week of January. Wüpping's accident happened on 9 March (when 11./KG 200 was operating from Rhein/Main) and his aircraft belonged to the Gruppenstab. Gefr. Josef Wüpping, Fw 190F-8 W.Nr. 933064, < C.

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I have also seen mentioned the loss of one FW190 off Denmark, same unit, that was marked < C (if I remember correctly).
Uffz. Rumpp of 9./KG 200 was wounded on 11 February 1945, when Fw 190F-8 W.Nr. 581772, "Dreieck E" crashed near Tirstrup, Denmark.

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Any qualified guesses on what the marking < E (and C) could possibly mean? - Could they have been aircraft from I./SG5 (From which the unit 11./KG200 formed), still marked with typical SG-markings (maybe an E before the cross and a triangle behind it?
The I./SG 5 idea is a good one but at least some of their machines carried a unit code: Q9+__.

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Could the < be a typical adjutant chevron? In that case, would the chevron be right in front of the letter - all in front of the cross?
Another 9. Staffel machine was lost on 5 April 1945, near Nienburg, Germany: Uffz. Schmidt, Fw 190F-8 W.Nr. 583091, <<.

Losses from from the 10. and 11. Staffeln (where a marking is given) all had black numbers. It seems likely that they all followed the practice of the Fw 190 F-8 photographed at Rhein-Main and combined this with unit code letters: A3+18.
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Re: Q: Markings on 11./KG200 FW190F-8

Thanks for filling in a lot of blanks, Nick!
I find it interesting how the markings of this Gruppe seems to have been a mix of old, new and improvised types. Intriguing and quite confusing. What seems quite common (Based on the few pictures available) is the use of the code letters A3.

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