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Old 27th January 2005, 22:28
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French Spitfire BR134

Hello

I am looking for the mission done by the spitfire Mk Vc Trop BR134 of french squadron GR 2/33 between May 13th 1944 and September 21st 1944 . This machine crashed on May 13th 1944 (location unknown probably north africa) and was later repaired and given back to the french unit . It craseh on Novembre 10th 1944 , in a field near my grand-father's house in Etueffont-le-Haut (France , near Belfort) .
I have other information on this machine but I would like to validate them also .

Any information or copy of the pages of "Pilotes Français sur la Vallée duRhone" , is wellcome.

Many thanks for any help .

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Old 28th January 2005, 09:41
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The book you are searching is "Pilotes français sur l'Alsace et l'Allemagne", by same authors. I don't have it but I have "Pilotes français en Afrique du Nord" (or something like that), still by same authors and should be able to trace the 13th May accident in this book (rather in the "Rhone" book).

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Old 28th January 2005, 16:00
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Daniel DECOT's book

Eric,

I will check in this book written by Daniel Decot,

Reply later this week end.

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Old 28th January 2005, 18:22
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Check out this link:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/herve.brun/H...r2_33spit.html

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Old 28th January 2005, 18:51
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BR 134

Eric,

BR134 : destroyed by bomb dropped from P40 13/05/1944 according to Spitfire, the history by Morgan/Schacklady.

In my files I have : Parc 93 on 04/03/1944, delivered Catane to GR 2/33 on 02/05/1944. Partially destroyed by a grenade (?) get rid of a friendly US PA40 in SAN TAMARO, then repaired and again to GR2/33 on 09/09/1944. Belly landing on 02/10/1944.

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Old 28th January 2005, 19:11
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rest of the story

It was damages on May13th 1944 , by a bomb probably drop by a P40. The repaired it went back to GR2/33 . on september 21st 1944 it was sent in reco mission over Belfort-Mulhouse area piloted by Lt Labadie.

On october 2nd it was hit by german flak over Belfort , and belly landed killing two cows in a field not 200m from my grand-father's farm in Belfort Area . The pilot Lt Bourdier was captured , anf the machine was set on fire . My grand-gtrand father did took a large part of the wing , which was still in the farm when I was a child 30 years ago.

My father aged 6 on october 1944 remembers clearly the events 60 yers later.

Any information on Ltt Bourdier will be wellcome too.

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Old 29th January 2005, 22:13
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Pilotes français sur l’Alsace et l’Allemagne »

Eric,


Here is what it is written page 52 of « Pilotes français sur l’Alsace et l’Allemagne » by Daniel Decot, 1990 :


**Envoyé en mission en fin de matinée au dessus de la ville de Belfort dans laquelle les allemands se sont solidement retranchés, le lieutenant Claude Bourdier est séparé de son leader au moment où la flak les prend à partie. Il a tout de même le temps de lui annoncer par radio qu’il vient d’être touché sérieusement et qu’il va être obligé de se poser.
Se présentant par le sud est le Spit effectue son crash en arrachant tout d’abord deux clotures, puis en tuant deux vaches avant de s’arrêter finalement à une cinquantaine de métres des maisons du petit village de Etueffont le haut (territoire de belfort)

Le lieutenant Bourdier sort aussitôt de son appareil se libére de son parachute et part en courant vers une colline située à l’est au sommet de laquelle se trouve une petite chapelle. Mais les soldats allemands, d’un poste voisin se sont déjà lancés à sa poursuite. Une vingtaine d’entre eux le rejoignent et le capturent.
Conduit sans brutalité à Anjoutey un village à 2.5 km de Etueffont le haut, il est interrogé dans une pièce au dessus de l’épicerie tenue par madame Muller puis emmené à la cure, transformée par les allemands en poste de police. Le lendemain le Ltt Bourdier partait pour l’Allemagne avec un train de permissionnaires. L’avion peu endommagé fut incendié sur place par les allemands. **
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Old 30th January 2005, 19:26
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Merci Bien, Bertrand - I am so glad I passed my "O"-Level French at school all those years ago - I could follow the piece pretty well, 40 years later...
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