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Old 23rd January 2015, 14:25
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Soviet naval aircraft type

Can anyone shed a light on the type of this downed Soviet naval aircraft?

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Old 23rd January 2015, 14:42
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

Not really Dénes

But it looks like a Yakovlev Yak-4 to me.
Few were built and although I did not know any were used by the Soviet Naval Aviation, it would be interesting to know more about it.

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Old 23rd January 2015, 14:44
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

I am certain this is not a Yak-4. This one is much larger in size.
I have a feeling it's a Lend-Lease aircraft, but cannot ID it.
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Old 23rd January 2015, 14:49
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

Looks like a Pe2 to me. What we used to call Pe2FT, with the turret which is fairly distinctive.
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Old 23rd January 2015, 15:04
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

Well Dénes

How many twin finned twin engined lend-lease aircraft did the Soviets get?
Albemarle? No it is not
Hampden? No it is not
Mitchell? No it is not
Ventura? No it is not
I cannot come up with any more than that.

The number of twin finned twin engined Soviet aircraft was not all that many and I still think the Yak-4 is a good bet. Look at how close the pilot and rear gunner is situated. You have the Pe-2 off course, but I still feel the Yak-4 is closer.... Span was 14 meters which should be pretty accurate to my eyes.

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Old 23rd January 2015, 15:34
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

Stig, the gunner of the Yak-4 was not as close to the pilot as seen in the photo. The gunner of the Pe-2 was closer to the pilot as seen in the photo.

Also the vertical fin looks like more like that of the Pe-2.

Dénes, why do you think it is a Soviet naval a/c? The navy could just be savaging an a/c.
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Old 23rd January 2015, 15:42
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

No worries Guys

I can settle for a Pe-2FT

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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

It is a VMF PE-2 fished by the Germans and probably this of 40 BAP Black Sea Fleet
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Old 23rd January 2015, 22:28
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Re: Soviet naval aircraft type

The other distinctive feature showing this is a Pe2 not a Yak 4 is the mid-fuselage gunner's position.

What is unusual is the red star on the upper wing. Supposedly these were not carried.
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Graham, I fully agree with you regarding the type and the red star, however some of the VMF Northern & Black see fleet PE-2 dispatched from the Irkutsk factory may have carried such though as you stated was unusual .
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