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Old 7th March 2006, 08:55
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Exclamation JG26, airbattle 14th Ocober 1943 above Holland

Can somebody tell me which Luftwaffe unit(s) and pilots participated(probably JG26) in an airbattle above Holland in the afternoon of 14th October 1943. I know that Adolf Glunz shotdown a P47 fighter from the 353 FG(not confirmed) and crashed near Budel.
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Old 7th March 2006, 18:59
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Re: JG26, airbattle 14th Ocober 1943 above Holland

There were three claims for P-47 done in this battle. One was rejected.

First at 14.00 hrs, Ofw Adolf Glunz and Gefr Heinz Wyrich, both of 5./JG 26, claimed each one shot down, respectively at Budel and west Brüggen. Glunz's claim was confirmed (and became his 43rd victory), Wyrich's was rejected.

Eight minutes later Hptm Detlev Rohwer of 2./JG 3 claimed another P-47 in Rosendaal area, and it was confirmed as his 31st victory.

It seems to me that only one P-47 was lost over Europe, P-47 D 42-8513 "Eager Beaver" of 350th FS, 353rd FG. The pilot, Lt Dwight A Fry, evaded capture.

You can find a picture of the pilot here:
http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/galle...tem=9&Temp=151
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Old 7th March 2006, 20:24
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Re: JG26, airbattle 14th Ocober 1943 above Holland

2 P-47s from 56th FG crash landed in England - pilots RTD
1 P-47 from 353d crash landed Herongate - Pilot KIA (name unknown)
P-47 353d # 28513 shot down - pilot lt. Dwight Fry evaded MACR # 904
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Old 8th March 2006, 12:21
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Re: JG26, airbattle 14th Ocober 1943 above Holland

German losses according to the Loss List of the Study Group Airwar 1939-1945 over the Netherlands at October 10th, 1943:
Nr. Date Time Place Type Werke Nr. Unit Pilot
T2977 43-10-14 1340 Kerkrade (De Vink) Bf 109G-6 15389 7./JG 1 Fw. H.Brinkmann
T2979 43-10-14 1333 Tholen - St.Maartensdijk Bf 109G-6 20698 Stab /JG 3
T2980 43-10-14 1320 Roosendaal Bf 109G-6 20261 2./JG 3
T2981 43-10-14 Bergen aan Zee Bf 109G-6 15671 3./JG 3 Hptm. R.Germeroth

Fry made its crashlanding at Budel at about 14.00 hrs and also 4 B-17s made their crashlanding in the Southern part of The Netherlands. All between 13.40 and 13.45 hrs.
German time = British time at October 10th, 1943.
All mentioned places are in the Southern part of The Netherlands, below the river Rhine and Waal.

See also "Luftwaffe Bullit Board' at forum.luftarchiv.de under 'Fliegendes- und Bodenpersonal' for more information.

Jaap Woortman
Secr. Dutch Study Group Airwar 1939-1945.

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Old 12th March 2006, 11:14
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Re: JG26, airbattle 14th Ocober 1943 above Holland

Many Thanks for the overwhelming info guys, much appreciated!!!
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