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Old 7th November 2017, 11:08
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Hello,

I am new to the forum here. My name ist Peter from Greifswald/Germany.

Can anyone of you provide details JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162?

I have got a question about the JU 88 A-14.
Wikipedia says that the A-14 got a cuto nose but when I do google picture search I can´t see the ballon cutters. Doesn´t have all A-14 this nose?
Can anyone help me please?

Kind regards!

Peter
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Old 8th November 2017, 03:37
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

144162 Ju 88 A-14 3./KG 101 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
Non-OPS (S) crashed and burned (100%) near Greifswald 01.12.1943 (F Uffz. Peter Eschbacher, B Obgefr. Anton Boigk, BF Uffz. Herbert Luschnigg and BS Obgefr. Heinrich von Stein killed)

not all in 088/0144xxx series were A-14. Basically they were A-4, but adding Cuto nase strip on nose and also additional internal armour (including engines) made them A-14 (Attack Bomber)

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/uploa...1455548205.jpg

Here strip extends from nose glazing, onto cockpit sides. Cuto strips were also
inside wing leading edge.

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Old 8th November 2017, 08:21
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

Not all A-14s had the balloon cutter.

See attached photo of A-14 from Squadron-Signal book with factory installed 20mm in the gondola with shell ejector chute and no cutter.

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Old 8th November 2017, 10:30
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

Photo of nose of said plane (with typo 4102 should read 4162) before the crash on page 139 of my latest Ju 88 book
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

Hello,

many thanks for your replies so far.

In the L. Dv. T. 2088 A-4 /Fl (Dec 1942) page 1
the A-14 defined as a A-14 with Cuto-Nose.
(Please see the attached picture)


I have also read that there were Ju 88 A-14 without MG FF (20mm) and of course Ju 88 A-4 with MG FF. So had most of the Ju 88 A-4 from the Bernburg manufacturing a MG FF factory installed, but still remained A-4. That with the A-14 and MG FF has emerged in the 60s at some point and then always taken unchecked.

Can any of you confirm that to me?
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

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144162 Ju 88 A-14 3./KG 101 (Lw.Befh.Mitte)
Non-OPS (S) crashed and burned (100%) near Greifswald 01.12.1943 (F Uffz. Peter Eschbacher, B Obgefr. Anton Boigk, BF Uffz. Herbert Luschnigg and BS Obgefr. Heinrich vom Stein killed)
Hello Ed,
ist it possible to get a picture of this entry?

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not all in 088/0144xxx series were A-14. Basically they were A-4,
This I already know. The 0144xxx block is for the 88´s which were manufactured at Henschel/Schönefeld.
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Re: JU 88 A-14 WNR: 144162

Hi, FYI all

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Not all A-14s had the balloon cutter.
See attached photo of A-14 from Squadron-Signal book with factory installed 20mm in the gondola with shell ejector chute and no cutter.
Cheers. Peter
Some caption/analyses appears be wrong in Squadron/Signal books, otherwise are generally accurate, but not always,
and its because their authors just do not know it all. And errors happen all the time.

Loss entries in GQM records (Verband- and Schulen u. Sonstige) are not always accurate,
but (088014)4162 of 3./KG 101 was A-14 version, and as proof its picture is in Chris Goss new "Ju 88" book (Vol 1, P.139).



Cannon installed in nose/gondola never changed Ju 88 designation. Period. If it has no cutter, it "just isn´t" Ju 88 A-14.

Like one in same Squadron book (Ju 88 "In Action" No. 1085 Part I, P.57) "Unknown variant" (T-1 nose, with Jumo 211 J engines and VDM props was in fact W.Nr. 0881726 Ju 88 D-5 A6+EH 1.(F)/120 "Islandsflugzeuge" (05.-10.1942). Ju 88 Ts did not exist yet, but had similar shape nose. In Artie Bobs book this plane ("D-1" (sic) A6+EH) is shown with Yellow under wings, which it did not have (but lacking map of Iceland and more mission markers, which it did have).

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