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Old 23rd March 2018, 10:22
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Heavy bomber aces

Good morning Gentlemen,

in WW2 heavy bomber pilots usually were not credited with the kills of their gunners. But if they were, who would be the top scoring pilots of their plane types respectively ? These are my suggestions:
  • B-17: Felix Hardison, possibly 26 kills, pilot of John Irons
  • B-24: Samuel Skousen, possibly 16 kills, pilot of Arthur Benko
  • B-29: Robert Haynes, possiby 13 kills
  • Halifax: James Keys, possibly 9 kills, pilot of Peter Engbrecht
  • Lancaster: John Grey, possiby 7 kills, pilot of Wallace McIntosh
Who were the gunners of Robert Haynes ?

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Old 23rd March 2018, 11:37
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Re: Heavy bomber aces

While I can add nothing further to the topic, I ran across a document I discovered at the U.S. Air Force Museum over 30 years ago when going through their files. It was a listing of aces from the various theaters of operations and also included some bomber gunners. Their names and details follow, but again, others will have to supply units, pilots, if the information is accurate, etc. I will type them word-for-word as shown on the sheets.

China-Burma-India (Includes 14th and 10th AFs)
Benko, Arthur J., S/Sgt. Bisbee, Ariz. 9
Gouldthrite, George W., T/Sgt. Spokane, Wash. 5

Thirteenth Air Force (Including crew members credited with 5 EAD)
Agnew, John W., S/Sgt. 5
Bowen, Wilbur L., T/Sgt. 5
Cielinski, Joseph J., S/Sgt. 5
Held, Charles F., Jr., S/Sgt. 5
Lee, Harold E., S./Sgt. 5
O'Brien, Frank, Jr. T/Sgt. 5
Stefanski, Edward J., Sgt. 5

Twelfth Air Force
Bruner, Robert M., T/Sgt. Dixon, California 6
Goerard, Jack D., S/Sgt. Beaufort, S.C. 6
Bowkar, Fred E., Sgt. Oak Park, Illinois 5
Myshall, Joseph E., S/Sgt. Millinocket, Maine 5


Twelfth Bomber Command
Warner, Benjamin F., S/Sgt. San Francisco, California 9

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Re: Heavy bomber aces

Good morning Kent,

thanks for your list.
I remember some fellow told me Benko's score might have been only 9.
My impression of his score being 16 is from Christophe Cony's article "Les Dessous de l'Histoire N°5: Arthur Benko et the Goon" in AVIONS #198. The article features a photo of Benko's B-24 adorned with 16 victory symbols and a photo of a monument in Arizona that acknowledges 16 kills for Benko.

Have a nice Thursday,

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