Bf109 G or K?

[pikas]

Hi
Is this 109 G-10 or K-4?

[John Beaman]

Looks like an Erla-built G-10

[Rasmussen]

For me looks more like an G - 14 ... I miss the oil piping to vapour seperator typical for DB 605D (or isn't to see?) and there is the light quarter near the windshield (from the MG - bulge).

Best wishes
Rasmussen

[Eduardo]

It is certainly a G-14 model.
It has the Db 605A-1 oil cooler.(carry by the G-14)
It has the external bulge of the MG 131 gun's in the engine.
It has the Fug 16ZY antena on the left wing that diferent it from the G-6 models.
and it does not have the Db603 super charger that diferent it from the
AS models.
The G-10 and K-4 models has Db605D engine with a bigger oil cooler.It is not the case of this photo.


Eduardo.

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Eduardo

It has the Fug 16ZY antena on the left wing that diferent it from the G-6 models.

AFAIK, there were G-6s with FuG 16ZY antenna fitted.

[Eduardo]

I am quite sure that all G-6 carry the antena at the botton of the central
fuselage.This photo also shows the wooden ruder(sharpe angle at the botton), a feature introduce later in the war.The AS models carry a diferente type of ruder(with a round corner at the botton)

Eduardo.

[Rasmussen]

Hello Eduardo,

Denes is right. In the Radinger/ Schick - book, volume 2, on page 95 is published a pic of an G - 6 (clear to identfy) with the FuG 16ZY antenna under the left wing.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

[George Hopp]

Perhaps, but how many G-6s have the broad fairings for the main U/c wheels?

[SES]

Hi George,
I might have missed something, it's a long time since I studied the Bf 109, but the only versions I can recall with the upper wing bulges made to accomodate the larger main wheels were the G-6AS, G-14AS, G-10 and K-4. This one has a short tail wheel, but it is hard to tell if it has a tall rudder. The short tail wheel should rule out the K-4, and the oil cooler seems too shallow for a G-10. So I think it's a G-6AS or G-14AS.
bregds
SES

[Eduardo]

It can´t be an "AS "plane .
You can cleary see the shade of the painting near the cockpit showing the MG 131 bulge. It is a feature of an old engine hood and not the hood
carry by the "AS" conversion set.
Adicionaly, this plane has a wooden tailplane(sharp angle at the botton of the ruder).This type of ruder was introduced later in war.By that time the
Me109G-6 was not built anymore.
I still beleave that the Fug16ZY antenna in the left wing was an old feature carry by the G-14 and other late models.The fact that there was
a unic photo showing the opposit in an ocean of millions of other photos did not prove anything.It could be a G-6 structure with an knew wing(G-14 wing)that uses the antenna in the wing.

Eduardo.