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Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
Dear all,
in the last days I got several eyewitness reports about the crash of Major Erich Gerlitz, Kdr. I./JG 5 near Gussenstadt (near Ulm) on 1944/03/16. The reports mentioned also the crash of USAF pilot Ernest R. Skilton on the same day on the same Location. About the US loss and Skilton I got already several documents (IDPF, MACR...). But about the loss of Gerlitz I only have very small information. Did someone have more information about the loss of Gerlitz? Still exists a Namentliche Verlustmeldung (NVM) or other documents? Thank you in advance Alex |
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Re: Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
1944-03-16, Stab I/JG 5, Bf 109 G-6, 162471, << schw, Eibach bei Waldhausen
Flugzeugführer Major Gerlitz, Erich, + Abgeschoßen von Thunderbolt. Bruch 100 %. Major Gerlitz mit Fallschirm abgesprungen, aber der Schirm öffnete nicht. Matti |
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Re: Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
Hi Alex,
I have Waldhausen near Geislingen, 100 metres north of the railyard by the track. Rgds, René |
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Re: Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
Erich Gerlitz's victims and overclaims:
1st claim 16.10.39/1605 Potez 637 Heltersberg No. 42 of GR II/52. Lt. Jean-Marie Pinczon du Sel (pilot) and Cne. Henri Marie Gabriel Belbeze KIA, Sgt-Chef Andre Vergne WIA 2nd claim 13.6.40/1325 Bloch MB151 Provins No details known. Overclaim? 3rd claim 13.6.40/1820 Blenheim Coulommiers/Sezanne P6925/UX-Z of 82 sqn. P/O R E Williams, Sgt. D Carbutt and Sgt. A S Beeby all believed to be unhurt 4th claim 21.7.40/1515 Hurricane I S of the Needles, Isle of Wight (Convoy "Peewit") N3971 of 43 sqn "Fighting Cocks", S/L John Vincent Clarence "Tubby" Badger damaged (aileron jammed by a cannon shell) 5th claim 25.6.41/1025 TacR Hurricane, Z4263 of 6 sqn. Sidi Barrani P/O Beresford Arnold Grosvenor KIA 6th claim 26.8.41/0715 Tomahawk Libya 2 sqn SAAF. AK375 of Maj. St.E "Saint" Truter, KIA and AK372 of Lt. Stephenson, WIA but made it home aircaft declared Cat. E (Maack and Kothmann also claimed) 7th claim 12.10.41/0930 80km SSE of Sollum Tomahawk AM396 of 112 sqn. Sgt. Rudolf Maurice Leu RAAF WIA 8th claim 19.10.41/0935 Hurricane II, Z2898 of 1 sqn SAAF 100km SE of Sidi Barrani Lt. Peter Maxwell Hedley, baled out but parachute got caught on plane's tail - KIA 9th claim 10.12.41/1400 Boston III, Z2182 of 24 sqn SAAF 15km E of Bir Hacheim Capt F W Goch and crew all KIA except one man appears to have baled out unhurt 10th claim 13.12.41/1400 Tomahawk E of Tmimi AK516 of 4 sqn SAAF. Lt. F C Lorentz baled out (safely?) 11th claim 19.12.41/1240 Maryland II SSE of Benina 1630 of 12 sqn SAAF. Lt R E Stanford POW, his crew were all KIA 12th claim 26.21.41/1140 Reconnaissance Hurricane E of El Agheila 208 sqn (attached to 33 sqn), F/O Patterson 13th claim 1.1.42/1520 Hurricane NE of Agedabia 229 sqn, Sgt. Case WIA, returned 3.1.42 14th claim 14.1.42/1533 3km W of Bir el Ginn @ 2000m Hurricane, 94 sqn, either Sgt. Phillips (first victim in this combat) or Sgt. Dallas Alexander Forder (KIA) Reuter claimed 4 more, so definitely overclaiming between the two of them) 15th claim 27.2.42/0750 Wellington E of Gambut Z8423/V of 148 sqn, shot down in flames. P/O D Wisdom and crew all POW 16th claim 27.2.42/0755 Hurricane W of Gambut Z5381 of 274 sqn. Sgt. Worthington baled out. Sgt. Harrington also hit, but unclaimed 17th claim 31.5.42/1908 Kittyhawk El Adem @ 1000m Opponent not known 18th claim 17.7.42/1033 Spitfire V NE of El Alamein AB373/ZX-F of 145 sqn. P/O Weber, baled out WIA (broke his arm) 19th claim 22.2.44/1258 B-17 Flying Fortress near Muehldorf @ 6100m Opponent not known |
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Re: Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
Apparently, he died because he bailed out too low. This is what DeZeng and Stankey say about him:
GERLITZ, Erich. (DOB: 12.02.12 in Linz?/Austria). 1930-31 attended the Jahresfliegerkurs of the Austrian Bundesheer. 1935 graduated from the Militärakademie Wiener Neustadt and promo to Flieger-Lt. 03.38 Lt., Staka Jagdstaffel 5 of Jagdgeschwader II of the Austrian Air Force. 15.03.38 Hptm., appt Staka 3./JG 135. 01.11.38 appt Staka 3./JG 233. 01.05.39 appt Staka 3./JG 51 (to 14.03.40). 16.10.39 Hptm., 3./JG 51. c.14.03.40 appt Staka 7./JG 2. 03.05.40 Hptm., in 8./JG 2. 13.06.40 Hptm., 1./JG 1 13.10.40 appt Staka Erg.St./JG 27 (to 11.04.41). 17.04.41 Hptm., appt Staka 2./JG 27 (to 25.12.41?). 25.06.41 Hptm., 2./JG 27. 10.41 appt Staka 7./JG 27 (to 25.12.41). 25.12.41 Hptm., appt Kdr. II./JG 27 (to 20.05.42). 14.01.42 Hptm., II./JG 27. 20.05.42 Maj., Kdr. III./JG 53 (to 31.10.42). c.21.05.42 Hptm., appt Kdr. III./JG 53 (to 10.42). 25.01.43 Maj., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 17.03.43 Maj., with Höheren Kdo. der Jagd- und Zerstörerschulen, ordered temporary duty to Dt.Lw.-Mission in Rumänien. 25.01.43 Maj., awarded Ehrenpokal. 05.43 Maj., appt Kdt. JFS Galatz/Dt.Lw.-Mission in Rumänien (to 1944). 25.01.44 Maj., appt Kdr. I./JG 5 (to 16.03.44 KIA). 22.02.44 Maj., Stab I./JG 5. 16.03.44 Maj., Kdr. I./JG 5 KIA - Bf 109 G-6 (BF+BU) shot down by a P-47 East of Ulm/Wurt., bailed out but too low to survive the fall. Credited with 15 air victories. |
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Re: Erich Gerlitz I./JG5 KIA 1944/03/16
Thank you so much for your help.
Now I can do further researches! |
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