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Old 11th December 2006, 12:49
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I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

Does anyone have copies of or are aware of the above KTBs for 1939-40? I have 12 Aug 40 pages for III/KG 51 but that is all
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Old 11th December 2006, 13:32
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

Hi Chris,
Would you be able divulge details of a couple of losses from the III/KG51
ref 12.8.40, you say you have the Krg.buch for this day, wonder if you could add to the scant details i have!

JU88A 9K+LT W.Nr 5052 Do you have the crew listing / fate.
JU88A 9K+AT W.Nr 5042 As above
JU88A 9K+?? W.Nr ? Oblt Flegel, crew ?

Id be very grateful if you could help with any further details.

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Old 11th December 2006, 13:57
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

The KTB has no listing for 9K+LT on this day.
9K+AT/5042 was Lt Capesius/Uffz Kraus/Ogefr Knoth/SdFhr Engel and force-landed at Le Havre, Engel badly wounded
Flegel was from 6 Staffel, not III Gruppe but his crew was Oblt Hans-Joachim Flegel-+; Gefr Emil Rueckert-+, Gefr Reinald Rener-M, Uffz Josef Berghammer-M
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Old 11th December 2006, 21:22
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

Hi Chris,
Thanks for your reply which is very helpful.
In terms of 9K+LT which you say doesnt appear on the KTB entry for this day, i have the name Oblt Noelker + 3 others killed, attributed to this loss?
Is this any help.
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Old 11th December 2006, 22:37
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

Oblt Wilhelm Noelken was in 9K+AS/5063 from 8 Staffel
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Old 13th December 2006, 11:58
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

Hi Chris, sorry for the delay,
many thanks for the Noelken confirmation, dont know how ive gotten him listed under 9K+LT? it would appear that ive erased a previous name and scribbled his name down, under this listing!
As an a/c with the code letter A' would this be a staffelkapitan's a/c, or rather, would Noelken have been st.Kap of 8/KG51?

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Old 13th December 2006, 12:31
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

St Kap for 8/KG 51 was Hptm Von Schenk in 9K+KS; never assume that A=St Kap!
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

The loss reports indicate that SdFhr Engel was in the crew of Schweisgut. Any comment on this Chris? He also was a Kriegsberichterstatter with 5. Kompanie.

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Old 13th December 2006, 20:25
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Re: I/ZG 76 & III/KG 51 Kriegstagebuch

No. Schweisgut was in 9K+ED with Maj Marienfeld from the Aufkl Staffel III/KG 51 with Fw Dorn and Uffz Roth
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