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Old 28th July 2007, 01:46
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Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

Hello all,

In Museum of Polish Navy in Gdynia is engine of type Pratt & Whitney R-1830, see photo.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7796/img3056tj8.jpg
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Plate informs, that belonged to Consolidated B-24 „Liberator” and found him in Gulf of Danzig in 1997.
I wish very to find out what this plane. Very I ask for informations on theme B-24 „Liberator” lost in region Gdynia and Gdansk
Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english.

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Old 28th July 2007, 02:33
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Lightbulb Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

Possibly the B-24 was from the 93rd Bombardment Group:
See thread-11th paragraph:
http://www.93rdbombardmentgroup.com/history.htm
Bomb Squadrons were:
328th
329th
330th
409th
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Old 28th July 2007, 14:12
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At least 2 B-24 lost in Gulf of Danzig:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/wwii/messages/17641.html
Air raid of 9 October 1943:
http://www.afa.org/magazine/1993/0993against.asp
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Old 29th July 2007, 00:26
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Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

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At least 2 B-24 lost in Gulf of Danzig:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/wwii/messages/17641.html
Air raid of 9 October 1943:
http://www.afa.org/magazine/1993/0993against.asp

Thanks,

During air raid of 9 October 1943 loss among B-24 this only two planes. Yet no did not fall to Gulf of Danzig, both bombers landed in Sweden, see :

B-24D-20-CO s/n 41-24111 „Picadilly Filly”, 93. BG(H)/329. BS – MACR 829
Damaged by the flak and landed at Högsby, Sweden.
http://hem.passagen.se/forcelanding/main.files/b24-1.htm
photo - http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8441/4123111fw2.jpg

B-24D-75-CO s/n 42-40610 „Death Dealer”, 93. BG(H)/409. BS – MACR 830
Damaged by the flak and landed at Rinkaby, Sweden.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=6158
http://www.accident-report.com/Serials/1942r.htm

Secret of engine waits still onto explanation.

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RAF bombed Gdansk also:
http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php...3194#msg-73194
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Old 30th July 2007, 12:55
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Are they any seriel numbers on engine?
Try an post them-prehaps someone can march them up with a MACR
US and RAF B-24 Aircraft which used the 1830 engine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_B-24

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Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

For comparison

Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp R-1830 - 43/43A
Tourbo Supercharged

-43 Installations.
AT-22 (Five C-87 airframes for the training of Flight Engineers)
B-24C North American
B-24D
B-24E (Ford Douglas)
B-24H ( .. .. )
XB-24B
XB-24F
C-87-CF (transport version of the B-24D)

-43A Installations.
B-24M. (Ford0
B-24E. (Ford Douglas)
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Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

Front view R-1830-43

Sorry I'll try again.
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Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

Front view R-1830

not having a lot of luck with this I'll try again later
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Re: Mysterious Liberator from Gulf of Danzig

Trying again!

I give up.
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