Unknown camo on Bf109G

[ouidjat]

Good morning,

I've never seen that camouflage; any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.de/3-Fotos-Me-109-Ab...item3362258752
I can't resist to load the pictures:

Cheers, Franck.

[Pilot]

Look interesting, like desert adaptation but who knows.

[John Beaman]

JG 4 used a pattern like that in Italy in 1943/44. Also, IIRC a recon unit based in the Balkans used a similar pattern but with seemingly lighter colors.

[ouidjat]

Hi John,

except I don't see any white band around the fuselage... but, yes, two little things below the canopy indicating this is a Trop version... It's a good suggestion John, thank you. It's a pity I don't have pictures of such pattern.

Cheers, Franck.

[Cpt_Farrel]

My first thought was of Heinrich Klöppers "White 1" of JG1 that he bellylanded in November 1943. The camoflage is similar and the area is right too. On the other hand I'm not sure how reliable the caption is as it says 1940 which is clearly wrong.

[ouidjat]

Hi Anders

Definitly the caption is wrong concerning the date but may be not the place (Belgium)... III gruppe was going around after May 1943; Holland, Germany, France...
Is there a Red band around the fuselage?..

Seems the answer is not obvious.

Cheers, Franck.

[Cpt_Farrel]

Klöpper didn't have a red band on his aircraft in November and on this aircraft it looks more like a segment of camoflag in the general area where the red band should have been.

Cheers! / Anders

[ouidjat]

Hello,

Yes, I know Anders, I was just talking for the general case ...
I got another picture, still on eBay, but a Bf109F that time... Camouflage looks very close to the one we are talking about (Still a white(?) 4 but it's just a mere coincidence); here it is:

Regards, Franck.

[Primoz]

Another possibility would be I./JG 4.

[ouidjat]

Hello Primoz,

This solution is elegant!
Came from JG77 elements, got G-6/Trop, fought in Northern Italy - last, looking at that picture we (I) think about brown camouflages... I like it.
The unit was in Belgium area too and did have - at the beginning - Bf109F until November 1943... What else?
... And the building in the Bf109F picture background looks like a rumanian monastry -at least what looks like a steeple. Is it asking too much?

Thanks for this comment.

Regards, Franck.