III./KG 6

Verehrte Mitstreiter,
Wer kann mir bei folgendem Fall helfen? Im Bundesarchiv in Freiburg fand ich in den Summarischen Verlustlisten der III./KG 6 unter dem Datum 12. Juni 1944 die Beschädigung einer (vermutlich) Ju 88 oder Ju 188. Der deutsche Flugzeugführer wurde nach einer Notlandung durch einen alliierten Jäger angegriffen, als er seinen verletzten Bordfunker aus der Maschine ziehen wollte.Es gibt leider nirgendwo Hinweise auf diesen Vorfall und auch Frank Olynyk kann mit seinen Büchern keine Klarheit bringen. Wer kann helfen?

Frosch

[sidney]

Who can help me with the following case? At Bundesarchiv in Freiburg I found about the damage of an (apparently) Ju 88 or Ju 188 in the III./KG 6 summary loss list of 12 June 1944. Having crash-landed his aircraft, the German pilot was attacked by an Allied fighter aircraft while trying to extricate his wounded radio operator from the damaged aircraft. There is unfortunately no further account of this incident, and even Frank Olynyk's books could not bring any clarity. Who can help?

[Chris Goss]

I can find no mention of this in the KG 6 history or the NVMs. If this did happen , this would have been on a transfer flight as all their operations (for obvious reasons) were flown at night

[Brian Bines]

Were there any Allied claims that day for a Ju188 (III/KG6) as far as I could see only fighters were claimed. On the 9th 8/KG6 lost a Ju188 in a Luftkampf but the crew baled out with only the Bf Ogef. Rohloff injured all other lost crews either side of the 12th appear as either killed or missing. The incident described by Frosch reminds me of the strafed Ju88S of Stab KG66 on 23-3-44 in which the Bf was killed and previously discussed here.

[Nick Beale]

Having crash-landed his aircraft, the German pilot was attacked by an Allied fighter aircraft while trying to extricate his wounded radio operator from the damaged aircraft.

So that would put the alleged incident during daylight hours?

Hallo Sidney, Chris Goss, Brian Bines und Nick Beale,
Sidney, danke für die Übersetzung in die englische Sprache.
Wie gesagt, in den Summarischen Verlustmeldungen RL2 III/848 ff steht folgendes:
Verlusttag: 12.06.44
Verlustmeldung vom 16.06.44.
Verlust durch Feindeinwirkung auf Feindflug durch Bordwaffenbeschuß beschädigt ohne Feindbeobachtung.
Der Flugzeugführer war möglicherweise der Oblt. Heinz Osterkamp aus der 9. Staffel der III. Gruppe des KG 6. Der Vorfall geschah bei Tageslicht!

Wie gesagt, Spekulationen sind nicht hilfreich, sondern Fakten!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Frosch

[sidney]

My reading of the reported event is that it either happened during daylight hours, or perhaps in the early morning hours (i.e., between dawn and sunrise) or between the sunset and dusk?

[John Beaman]

Frosch:

All posts on this forum must be in English, the language of the Board. Please repost your post in English unless you are directly quoting from a German document.

You have also duplicated your post. Please be patient when posting as multiple attempts will result in duplicated posts.

I will delete your duplicated posts

[Peter Achs]

I can't find a remark that all posts must be in English.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=884

Peter

[John Beaman]

Peter: it has always been the policy, from the beginning, to have all posts in English, the most common language of the internet.

If you need it in writing, I will get it, although I'm not sure why you need this.