'Yellow 16' recovered today

[Adlerhorst]

A phantastic find, thank you for sharing it with us ! Watching the great photo from Olve, it looks to me, that this might be a yellow 15 ....... what do you think ?

Thank's again

Regards
Thomas

[markjsheppard]

Hi all

Did see a photo of the fin tip underwater last year and it seemed to have two numbers on it. Due to the age of the airframe and 3-4 ID's, it being repaired is highly likely and the fin unit might well have been replaced. Fin is important as this is where a triangular plate was located although it may be incorrect.

Will need to assess and cross reference the different W.Nr's (0)425 / (3)425 / (5)425 to see if any are the same. 30/40% damage is quite significant for mid 1943 damage and repair if (0)425 / (3)425 is 5425 was lost 5-6 months later

Perhaps there is a repair report in Norway for this airframe? Andreas will have to have a look.

Looking at the recovery photos it was 'Yellow 16' (15?) on its last flight.
Before that it was 'Black 6'
Possiblu 'Black 1' or 'Black 10' before that,
and another black number before that.

2./JG5 or 11./JG5

Usually there is an ID plate 300mm aft of the hatch on the outside and one on the opposite side internally. Ammunition boxes/compass mox, radio/battery box and cockpit consulesoften had the W.Nr painted although often these were mixed up as well.Might well be corroded away.

Possibly the confirmation of Stkz RT+CY to the underside at least can be confirmed with 5425.

Looks as though the MG/FFs were deleted though the ammunition bulge is still there.

MG151 in place and MG17's removed previously.

Very nice embems below cockpit and on engine cowling.

A lot of research needs to be looked at to eventually confirm the W.Nr.

Very nice recovery.

regards

MS

[Horst Kube]

Hi all,

I want to share a photo with you taken in 1945 at a (prisoner?) camp in Bowoen, where the JG 5 and the Mickey Mouse emblem is in front of the cottage. The photo was sent from Heinz Orlowski.

Thanks Andreas, great work and good luck!
All the best, Horst

[SMF144]

While we're on the subject of recovered Fw.190s, what happened to that D-9 of JG-26 they pulled from Lake Schwerin, Germany?

Does anyone have recent photos of the plane that they could post?

Stephen

[DaveM2]

Originally Posted by SMF144

While we're on the subject of recovered Fw.190s, what happened to that D-9 of JG-26 they pulled from Lake Schwerin, Germany?

Does anyone have recent photos of the plane that they could post?

Stephen

Still under rebuild at Gatow IIRC

Dave

[Eric Larger]

The FW 190D-9 recovered in Lake Schwerin is in Berlin museum now , the restoration is on its way.

Eric

[Andreas Brekken]

Originally Posted by Horst Kube

Hi all,

I want to share a photo with you taken in 1945 at a (prisoner?) camp in Bowoen, where the JG 5 and the Mickey Mouse emblem is in front of the cottage. The photo was sent from Heinz Orlowski.

Thanks Andreas, great work and good luck!
All the best, Horst

Hello, Horst!

I think that the location is Boemoen (or in norwegian Bømoen), a internment camp in Norway where the pilots and ground personnel from Herdla were sent after the war ended.

So - the next question is - what Staffel used this emblem (the Mickey Mouse on skis) in 1945?

I will have a look at the Staffelstammbau tonight and post more later.

Regards,
Andreas

[odybvig]

We belive that the mickey Mouse was a Staffel Emblem of 12./JG 5 in 1943.
12./JG 5 become 15./JG 5 late in 1944 and moved to Sola and later to Lister.
(A new 12./JG 5 was formed). The emblem is not seen at all at Herdla after late 1944, so it was probaly used now by 15./JG 5. As far as we know only Lw personell from Herdla was prisoners at Boemoen (Voss). So why do we find this emblem at Boemoen. Was also 15./JG 5 pilots at this place.

Anyone know more

Olve Dybvig