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Re: Downed B-24, 10/1/43
try to search here for the unit records:
http://www.44thbombgroup.com/main.html here is list of all german claims known: 1. October 1943 U.S.A.A.F. XII Bomber Command: WIENER NEUSTADT 01.10.43 Major Kurt Ubben: n.L. Stab III./JG 77 B-17 £ 14 Ost S/04 195: at 3.200 m. 11.55 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr. - 01.10.43 Fw. Alfred Scharl: 6 2./JG 53 P-38 £ 15 km. S.W. Livorno: 4.000 m. 12.46 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.350 01.10.43 Oblt. Josef Jansen: 4 2./JG 27 B-24 £ E.N.E. Wiener Neustadt: 5.500-6.000 m. 12.55 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.19 01.10.43 Ltn. Gerhard Keppler: 7 2./JG 27 B-24 £ b. Wiener Neustadt: 5.500-6000 m. 12.57 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.19 01.10.43 Uffz. Hans Hambeck: 2 1./JG 27 B-24 £ S. Wiener Neustadt: 5.000 m. 12.59 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.162 01.10.43 Fw. Otto Haas: 2 1./JG 27 B-24 HSS £ 20 km. S. Wiener Neustadt: 5.000 m. 13.05 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.170 01.10.43 Fw. Gustav Sturm: 1./JG 27 B-24 e.V. £ S.S.W. Wiener Neustadt: 5.500 m. 13.05 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.170 01.10.43 Hptm. Hans Remmer: 19 1./JG 27 B-24 £ 35 km. S.S.W. Wiener Neustadt: 5.000 m. 13.06 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.166 01.10.43 Ltn. Emil Kaiser: 12 3./JG 27 B-24 £ 30-40 km. S. Wiener Neustadt: 4.500 m. 13.10 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.32 01.10.43 Ofw. Alfred Surau: 44 9./JG 3 B-17 £ 15 km. S.W. Feldkirch: 4.000 m. 13.33 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.838 01.10.43 Ltn. Stahlberg: n.L. 8./JG 3 B-17 £ 98 HT-6: 5.000 m. 13.35 Film C. 2031/II VNE:ASM 01.10.43 Ofw. Alfred Surau: 45 9./JG 3 B-17 £ Landquart: 3.700 m. (Switzerland) 13.40 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.839 01.10.43 Uffz. Meyer-Arend: n.L. 8./JG 3 B-17 £ 97 JU-4: 4.000 m. (N. Chur) 13.44 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.549 01.10.43 Uffz. Erich Kreul: 3 9./JG 3 B-17 HSS £ 25 km. S.S.E. Feldkirch: 4.000 m. 13.45 Film C. 2031/II VNE:ASM 01.10.43 Ltn. Raimund Koch: 8 8./JG 3 B-17 £ JT-8: 4.500 m. (Ilanz 40 km. W. Chur) 13.47 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.559 Supplemental Claims from Other Sources: 01.10.43 Ltn. Horst Grimm: n.b 2./JG 27 B-24 £ S. Weiner Neustadt 13.00 Reference: JG 27 Lists f. 572 01.10.43 Ltn. Horst Grimm: n.b. 2./JG 27 B-24 £ Raum Weiner Neustadt 13.05 Reference: JG 27 Lists f. 572 01.10.43 Uffz. Franz Mörl: n.b. 2./JG 27 B-24 £ - - Reference: JG 27 Lists f. 572 01.10.43 Ltn. Emil Kaiser: n.b. 3./JG 27 B-24 £ Raum Weiner Neustadt 13.00 Reference: JG 27 Lists f. 572 01.10.43 Ofw. Rainer Pöttgen: n.b. 3./JG 27 B-24 £ - - Reference: JG 27 Lists f. 572 01.10.43 Uffz. Wolfgang Rentsch: 2 * 7./JG 3 B-17 HSS £ - - Reference: JG 3 Lists f. 501 01.10.43 Oblt. Emil Bitsch: 105 8./JG 3 B-17 £ - 13.44 Reference: JG 3 Lists f. 501 01.10.43 Ltn. Raimund Koch: 9 8./JG 3 B-17 HSS £ - - Reference: JG 3 Lists f. 501 Then you can try to pick up a group which might be involved. There are history books for all units written by Mr. Mombeek or Dr. Prien. and try NARA, Washington and search for MACR, MIssion report and KU report related to the case of your fathers plane. that is for the start. It is a puzzle and no one gives you complete answer.
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