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Old 22nd May 2010, 10:06
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Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

Hello all,
we can find the picture here: http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=6687
Any idea???
I have one (we can always dream!)
What are the clues?
- Siwerskaya hangar in background.
- Yellow band around fuselage under the black cross.
- Ribbon + RK cross on top rudder, 50+ victory bars in five rows of ten plus 3?
- Yes there is a green heart (blurry) under the canopy.
- and yes, there is an emblem on nose looking like a 8./JG54 one, view from behind on a blurry picture.

I've never seen it before, but I would say it's a Bf109G-2, WNr.10438, flown by 8.JG54 Stfkpt. Oblt. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann, taken in Siwerskaya just before he was shot down on 9/8/1942.

Well, you can always insult me if I'm wrong! .
Cheers, Franck.
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Old 22nd May 2010, 12:49
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Re: Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

... OK, I must admit there is a problem with what I "dreamed" upper. .
III.JG54 received it's G-2 in September and victories figure doesn't match pretty well.
But I maintain the 8./JG54 emblem on nose.
Exit Ostermann... Who was his follower as Stfkpt?

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Old 22nd May 2010, 13:34
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Re: Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

Hi,Franck

You can see same machine Dr Prien's Jagdfligerverband band9/Ⅲpage359.
But I have remembered. Being the photograph which Sudek13 keeps having at one time. . .

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Re: Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

Domo Arigato Isao.
Doesn't help since I haven't the book, but it'is a good thing to know that. Thank you.
Franck.
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Old 22nd May 2010, 15:33
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Re: Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

Regarding Prien was it W.Nr. 13591 from Oblt. Emil Omert from 8./ JG 77.
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Old 22nd May 2010, 17:19
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Re: Unknown Bf109G-2 "Schwarze 1"

Not bad. Camo, yellow band and even that blury emblem can match!
Thank you Rasmussen.
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