A couple of ?? RE: Emil Lang's 18 vic day..

[yogybär]

Some inputto the original topic:
1) In 1943, there were no La7. So it could only be La5.
2) Involved in these battles was the 1.Ukrainian Front with 2VA, which included 5 ShAK (4GShAD and 264ShAD) and 291 ShAD. Now you can try to search for their specific losses, maybe better in a russian forum then here.

[Nikita Egorov]

Originally Posted by yogybär

Some inputto the original topic:
1) In 1943, there were no La7. So it could only be La5.
2) Involved in these battles was the 1.Ukrainian Front with 2VA, which included 5 ShAK (4GShAD and 264ShAD) and 291 ShAD. Now you can try to search for their specific losses, maybe better in a russian forum then here.

Joerg,

You forgot to mention 256 IAD and 235 IAD.

As regards to losses, all La-5s claims of II/JG54 and IV/JG54 are well in line with Soviet losses. In this case one of Lang's claims at 13.00 could be positively identified as La-5 of 3 GIAP, pilot killed. In contrary claims against Yaks are exaggerated to a higher extent, as only two Yak-7s were damaged and conducted belly-landings in 256 IAD.
I have no idea yet on the IL-2s losses.