A couple of ?? RE: Emil Lang's 18 vic day..

[Griffon]

as the early Corsairs had their dive brakes linked with the wheel covers, it may as well be that on those shots in the footage, they have their dive brakes extended, making it look like as they still have their wheels down;

[John Beaman]

Originally Posted by Griffon

as the early Corsairs had their dive brakes linked with the wheel covers, it may as well be that on those shots in the footage, they have their dive brakes extended, making it look like as they still have their wheels down;

No, both the still shots and the film footage definitely show wheels down.

[yogybär]

Some inputto the original topic:
1) In 1943, there were no La7. So it could only be La5.
2) Involved in these battles was the 1.Ukrainian Front with 2VA, which included 5 ShAK (4GShAD and 264ShAD) and 291 ShAD. Now you can try to search for their specific losses, maybe better in a russian forum then here.

[Nikita Egorov]

Originally Posted by yogybär

Some inputto the original topic:
1) In 1943, there were no La7. So it could only be La5.
2) Involved in these battles was the 1.Ukrainian Front with 2VA, which included 5 ShAK (4GShAD and 264ShAD) and 291 ShAD. Now you can try to search for their specific losses, maybe better in a russian forum then here.

Joerg,

You forgot to mention 256 IAD and 235 IAD.

As regards to losses, all La-5s claims of II/JG54 and IV/JG54 are well in line with Soviet losses. In this case one of Lang's claims at 13.00 could be positively identified as La-5 of 3 GIAP, pilot killed. In contrary claims against Yaks are exaggerated to a higher extent, as only two Yak-7s were damaged and conducted belly-landings in 256 IAD.
I have no idea yet on the IL-2s losses.