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				Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
			 Hi Aviator I have only the one 3./LG 2 (no JG 26) FF. Ofhr. Heinz Eckhardt (+), Bf 109 E7 (W.Nr. 2039) 100% Flaktreffer Kumanovo 06.04.41, regards Byron | 
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				Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
			 According to :  Air war for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete - Christopher Shores, Brian Cull and Nicola Malizia, 1987 Grub Street, London, ISBN 0-948817-07-0 P. 231-232 Hurricanes of no. 33 Squadron vs Bf109Es of 8/JG27 over the Rupel Pass on 6 April 1941. 33 Squadron claimed 5 without losses while 8/JG27 lost four aircraft and a fifth crash-landed. Oberleutnant Arno Becker (StaKa) was killed in "Black 2". Leutnant Klaus Faber baled out and became POW. Ofw Gerhard Fromming was wounded and crash-landed his badly damaged "Black 8". An unnamed pilot baled out of "Black 6" and returned on foot. No info about the fifth casualty. | 
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 How are you my friend? I have a problem with that loss! Took me time to get the net sites where I had found it... Same plane is given in JG5 loss lists. on 30/6/42, Landing accident at Vaernes, 20%. Cheers, Franck. | 
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			 Dear Aviator , From Prien's Book "Die Jgdfliegerbande der deutsche Luftwaffe , Teil 5" : 6/4/1941-Me-109 losses Oblt. Heinz Deuschle , 6./JG 77 , Pancevo , 100% Hptm. Herbert Ihlefeld , Stab I(J)/LG2 , 35 km south of Nisch , 100% Obfhr. Heinz Eckhardt , 3.(J)/LG2 , Kumanovo , 100% Obfw. Adolf Faltings , 4.(S)/LG2 , Belica-north , 100% , pilot dead three losses for II.(S)/LG2 without pilot name , 1) Plovdiv , 2) Belica-north , 3) Belica Oblt. Arno Becker , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100%, pilot dead Lt. Klaus Faber , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100% Obfw. Gerhard Froemming , 8./JG 27 , west of Gefyroudi (Greece) , 100% Hope this helps , Tasos | 
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			 Thank you all! It seems that rather 5 109s came down shot down by Pattle(2),1 by Winsland,half each Winsland and Cottingham and the last by Wickham.The first 3 are Becker,Faber and Fromming.2 are missing.I thought that Eckard (not Eckhardt/probably other pilot) and Faltings could be the ones.But as you wrote,they belonged to LG2.In this air fight only JG27 109s were involved as far i know.But from some sources i read that 20/30 a/cs were in the air.Could it be possible that the LG2 was hunting together with JG27? Have a look at http://www.jg27.de/chronik_maerz_41.html which confuses more.... Regards, Aviator | 
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			 FF. Ofhr. Heinz Eckhardt (+), Bf 109 E7 (W.Nr. 2039) 100% Flaktreffer Kumanovo 06.04.41,  2038 indeed The Klaus Faber shot down on 6.April 41 nd who became a prisoneer, the same landed a Fw190 in GB in 1943 quite strange oder.. Rémi | 
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			 Thank you RT. Staffel captain OLt Klaus Faber become prisoner and met his unit again at 27.4.41 regards, Aviator | 
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				Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
			 Quote: 
 Thank you Rémi, this is a good new! But: "Indeed"? ... any source? Regards, Franck | 
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				Re: Shot down pilots over Greece
			 The usual daily returns, I think that first Wn given 2039 was a mistake the 2038 is very clear in returns Rémi | 
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