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Old 18th July 2012, 19:27
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Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

Hi guys,

Can anyone please provide details over the loss of Oberleutnant Hans Grotz who was missing on 7.10.1943?

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Old 19th July 2012, 00:26
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

Hi.

The transcribed loss record:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=105509

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Old 19th July 2012, 19:23
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

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Old 21st July 2012, 10:10
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

Um 20.30 Uhr in Pl.Qu. 05 Ost 2342.

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Old 21st July 2012, 14:42
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

Andreas, Matti,

I have heard that Hans Grotz was severely wounded earlier in the war (lost a leg IIRC) and hence converted from being a Flugzeugführer to Beobachter. Could any of you confirm this? Is there an earlier entry about Hans Grotz in your losses database?

In any case, the loss of Hans Grotz was a severe blow to I./KG66, which was still more or less in a start up phase. He was very experienced and an example for younger crews, both in professional skill and character..

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Old 21st July 2012, 19:02
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

1940-04-22, 7./KG 4, He 111P, Fl.Pl. Aalborg, Hindernisberührung beim Start. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Zetzsche, Hans-Joachim, verletzt
Beobachter Lt Grotz, Hans, verletzt
Bordfunker Ogfr Nowotny, Gerhard, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Franz, Siegfried, verletzt

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Old 21st July 2012, 19:06
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Re: Hans Grotz +++7.10.1943

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1940-04-22, 7./KG 4, He 111P, Fl.Pl. Aalborg, Hindernisberührung beim Start. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Zetzsche, Hans-Joachim, verletzt
Beobachter Lt Grotz, Hans, verletzt
Bordfunker Ogfr Nowotny, Gerhard, verletzt
Bordmechaniker Uffz Franz, Siegfried, verletzt

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Matti,

Wow, thanks! That could be it!

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