Wekusta 2 Loss 20 Mar 44

[Chris Goss]

I know that we discussed this before
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...hlight=Haslope

but there are still some unanswered questions so:

1. Can anyone confirm the Wk Nr or codes?
2. Was the crew Oblt (Alfred or Karl) Schmidt, Wd Insp Karl Rösch, Fw Helmut Grupen & Ofw Fritz Schefer? Rösch and Grupen have graves, I think Schefer was wounded but I can find nothing on Schmidt.
3. Where did it crash? 165 Sqn says 15 miles north of Vannes but other sources say Grand Champs, Retaud, Leuhan, Quimper (VDK) or even Quiberon!

[Brian Bines]

Avions no.163 ( previous article in no 162 ) covering WEK 2 1943/44 .shows Ju88 D-1 D7+HK 430334 shot down by Spitfires of 165 Sqd (P/O John Melvill Haslope ) -Oblt Alfred Schmid +, Wd-Insp Karl Rosch +, Obfw Fritz Schaper W, Fw. Helmut Grupen +. at Grand-Champ N/E Vannes

[RT]

Hello Brian,

Gives the Avion/163 source for that info ???


Rémi

[Brian Bines]

Hi Remi, information from Avions magazine no. 163 Mai/Juin 2008 in an article on Wekusta 2 1943-44 with photos of Alfred Schmid and John Haslope,

Regards

Brian Bines

[Jim P.]

I have the same source as Brian, along with an earlier report from Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.21. Only the first incident appears in the Kingston/Seliger 'Wekusta' book.

Ju 88D-1, 430334, Nitschke, Ofw. Karl, , , , Wekusta Ob.d.L. 2, , D7+HK, , , 13-Sep-43, Bruchlandung due to engine trouble., At Fl.Pl. Brest-Lanveoc per Avions., Lfl.3/Atlantik, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.21; Wekusta 2, Avions, #163, p.49, , Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd, 25%, F, B Wd.Insp. Werner Bibel, Bf Ofw. Heinz Becker & Bm Ofw. Josef Peter, ,
Ju 88D-1, 430334, Schmid, Oblt. Alfred, , , , Wekusta Ob.d.L. 2, , D7+HK, , , 20-Mar-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with 2 Spitfires from 165 Sq. during meteorological sortie. B & Bm also KIA, Bf WIA., , Atlantik, Wekusta 2, Avions, #163, p.49, , Grand-Champ, 100%, F, B Wd.Insp. Karl Rösch, Bf Ofw. Fritz Schaper & Bm Fw. Helmut Grupen, ,