Bf109 Rüstatz etc...

[andy120]

Attached is a list of Rüstatz, Rüstzustand and Umrütsatz from several authors. Anyone like to hazard corrections?

Andy

[Falcon]

Nice work. Some typo corrections...

[Denniss]

Please change "G-2/Rüstsatz 1" and similar to "G-2 Rüstsatz 1" or "G-2 with Rüstsatz 1". The current nomenclature implies the Rüstsatz designation was part of the subversion/model number.
No 500kg bomb on Bf 109G, the carrier was capably of carying such a bomb but insufficient ground clearance on the 109 prevented it's use. At least for machines with standard length tail wheel assembly.

The description of Rüstzustand and Umrüstsatz seem reversed.

/U4 variant should be stated as MK 108 Motorkanone, just MK 108 may be misleading

/R3 long range recons had no MGs (but retained Motorkanone) - space needed for additional oil tank.

G-5/AS/R2 - Recon with DB 605AS engine

[andy120]

Hi guys, Names sorted. I don't think MK108 is abnormal since all other weapons are abbreviated as well. The /R3 I find questionable as to fairing over the MG troughs applies to 100% of conversions. Thanks for the help Falcon. Andy

[harrison987]

The G10/U4 was also not only Mk108, but also MW50. BUt...MW50 was actually standard at that point, so not sure if it was considered to be Rüstatz?

Mike

[Denniss]

MW-50 was standard for G-10/-14, /U4 was just the designation for the MK 108 Motorkanone (instead of the standard MG 151/20.)

[Mermet]

Rüstsatz 3 (R3) was standard on Bf 109 G-10, G-14 and K-4. There was no reason to add a reference to it on those versions. The compressed air was taken directly on the compressor spirale.
Bf 109 G-6/U3 was the earlier designation of the Bf 109 G-8. From a letter from Mtt-GmbH, there was no specific designation of the MW 50 for the Bf 109 G-6 : that was simply Bf 109 G-6/MW.
That was not the case for the G-8. MW50-equipped G-8s were designated G-8/U3.
U4 was generally the axial MK 108 (but also the u/w MK 108). Only WNF produced Bf 109 Gs with the axial MK 108.
There was no "U1" (GM-1) on Bf 109 G-14, G-10 and K-4. Only Erla-Leipzig produced Bf 109 Gs with GM-1 device (only propelled via compressed air contained in bottles). The sole foreseen version with both GM-1 and MW50 was the Bf 109 H-2/H-3.
The MW 50 could be replaced (70 ltr) by fuel (Bf 109 K-4).
It seems that the BSK 16 in the left wing of the K-4 was Rüstsatz 8 (R8).
One Erla-built G-10 is known to have been equipped with MG 151/20 in gondolas on underwing. The designation was surely not R6, then R6 on this plane was the PSK 12 for all weather flying.

JCM

[Denniss]

Originally Posted by Mermet

The designation was surely not R6, then R6 on this plane was the PSK 12 for all weather flying.

You mixed up /R6 with R VI. /U4 was only applied to the Motorkanone, nothing else. The /U4 versions were intended to be fitted with optional MK 108 gondola weapons but these gondolas were never introduced. Some G-6/U4 + G-14/U4 were built in Györ,Hungary.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Denniss

You mixed up /R6 with R VI.

He didn't ... The official designation of bad weather fighters with PSK 12 used by Erla in all documents was "G-10/R6".

Best regards
Rasmussen

[Denniss]

That's Rüstzustand 6, not Rüstsatz VI. And Rüstzustand 6 is correct for the bad-/all-weather version.

GM-1 is /U2, I assume that was just a typo above.