eBay: a Stab JG27 Bf109.. with Stab emblem??

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Merlin

... The emblem below the cabin is similar to that of III./JG 27, it’s not the Geschwader emblem of JG 27. This seems to be a personal add by Maj. Wilhelm Lessmann, who led JG 52 from 10.41 to 06.42. The emblem should remind him of his first command as Staffelkapitän of 1./JG 131 during 1937/38. This unit became later I./JG 130, I./JG 1 and finally III./JG 27.[/font]

Merlin,

Are you sure of that?
Or is it just "seems" and "should"?? First, when reading you, I thought it was in LiF comments; but it's not.

Why no victory board on fin when his 13199 was updated in June 1942?
Any other photo of this "personnal emblem" and, by the way, Lessmann's machine(s) available?

Last: re-reading JFV Teil 1, I just have a question: When Jesau shield started to be I./JG 131 emblem? The only clear given date is in comments Under Wolenga machine's photo, i.e. Summer 1938 AND, last but not least, I./JG 131 started to receive Bf 109B in MAY 1938 ... Lessmann was already OFF this unit ... Unless you show us an Arado wearing the shield.

Regards, Franck.

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, all

Can w be sure that this was the aircraft of Major Wilhelm Lessmann, Kommodore of JG 52, or is it really the aircraft of Karl-Heinz Leesmann, the Gruppenkommandeur of I./JG 52?

The loss record does not indicate that the aircraft was from Stab/JG 52 (the rule for the loss records - yes I know there are omissions and errors with regards to this- would be to enter one line for the aircraft, and one for the pilot linking them by a comment (s.lfd.Nr.X) respectively)

Are there no contemporary photos of the aircraft of these unit commanders from this period?

(not in my library at the moment, so no access to the Prien Jagdwaffe book series just now)

Regards,
Andreas B

[sidney]

A scan of the back-side of the photo, kindly provided by the seller. Can any of our German speaking colleagues decipher the hand-writing for the benefit of all of us?

[sidney]

As suggested by Göran (F19Gladiator) on the LEMB, the photo should be mirrored. My apology. It reads: "ein notgelandeter deutscher Jäger in ?aslovo"