Me109G6 Aircraft Information

[Mr Schmitt]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 G-6 W.N3. 18224 "IM+MJ", "Schwarzer Doppelwinkel", Maj. Anton Mader, Gruppenkommandeur II./JG 77, destroyed at Gerbini, Italy, 4 July 1943. This machine was found destroyed by the British Army on 6 july 1943. Source: Georg Morrison.

Cheers
Marc

The Aircraft wnr 18224 Baujahr is 1943 and so this is a little confusing that is was destroyed in 1943?

Cheers Mr Schmitt

[ouidjat]

Hello Nick and Marc,

It is true that this date, 6th of July 1943, is given like that in page 1836/1837 of Prien's book.
But just this does concern only Gerbini Platz Nr.1 We have 15/7 for Gerbini Platz 6... With some unknown date; Sciacca is given on 9/7.

Those pages from Prien are supposed to be extract from A.I.2(g) RAF report if I remember well.

So, a report error or a typo in Prien's book?

Regards, Franck.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Hello Nick and Marc,

It is true that this date, 6th of July 1943, is given like that in page 1836/1837 of Prien's book.
But just this does concern only Gerbini Platz Nr.1 We have 15/7 for Gerbini Platz 6... With some unknown date; Sciacca is given on 9/7.

Those pages from Prien are supposed to be extract from A.I.2(g) RAF report if I remember well.

So, a report error or a typo in Prien's book?

What about learning German language? Prien mentioned in his book the meaning of the date under the name of the place (p.1829, last sentence) ... it's the last known date of an German "Verlustmeldung" for this place and had nothing to do with allied troops.

Best regards
Rasmussen

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Rasmussen

What about learning German language? Prien mentioned in his book the meaning of the date under the name of the place (p.1829, last sentence) ... it's the last known date of an German "Verlustmeldung" for this place and had nothing to do with allied troops.

Best regards
Rasmussen

Ah ah ah, Jawohl Herr Sturmbannführer!

And if you read carefully other posts you will understand that I'm not the only one!..

As for me, no, I don't speak German.
I speak Portuguese, French, Italian when I have time during my holidays working in China where I'm doing a lot of progress in Mandarin. I speak a lot of Arab, some Haoussa, and I did speak Rumanian.

I think you don't need help to translate French and Italian documents as part - I suppose - of OUR community; do you?

Be good, Franck.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Ah ah ah, Jawohl Herr Sturmbannführer!

It seems you have an special interest on the "SS" --- interesting!

Originally Posted by ouidjat

As for me, no, I don't speak German.
I speak Portuguese, French, Italian when I have time during my holidays working in China where I'm doing a lot of progress in Mandarin. I speak a lot of Arab, some Haoussa, and I did speak Rumanian.

It's good if you are interested on aircrafts from Portugal, France, Italy, China, Romania or Arabian states but if you are interested on German aircraft history (or "SS") it's better to learn German, dear ouidjat.

I'm interested on history of Czech and Polish aircrafts and I've learned to read fluently Czech and Polish documents. Near the same with Dutch and Russian language.

Originally Posted by ouidjat

I think you don't need help to translate French and Italian documents as part - I suppose - of OUR community; do you?

Correct --- I'm not interested on French or Italian aircrafts. But .. if I need this languages then I learn it itself. Thanks.

Be good, Rasmussen.

[Mr Schmitt]

Gentlemen, we seem to have drifted from the point of why I opened this thread. If you don't mind please can we go back to what I was originally asking. Please PM each other if you want to discuss things not related to this thread. Thank you!

[John Beaman]

ok, Guys, I agree completely with Mr. Schmitt. Take your language learning comments off board or tone them down.

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Mr Schmitt

The Aircraft wnr 18224 Baujahr is 1943 and so this is a little confusing that is was destroyed in 1943?

Cheers Mr Schmitt

Yes.

[Mr Schmitt]

I suppose that it could be possible that the aircraft was built early 1943 and destroyed a couple of months later. That is very feasible.

What I can add is that the Aircraft was built as an Me109G6-Trop Wnr 18224 and Baujahr 1943.

Thank you guys all the same for your additions to this thread. It would be nice to find out more information on this aircraft.

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Mr Schmitt

I suppose that it could be possible that the aircraft was built early 1943 and destroyed a couple of months later. That is very feasible.

What I can add is that the Aircraft was built as an Me109G6-Trop Wnr 18224 and Baujahr 1943.

The W.Nr.18235 was built in April/May 1943 and had the first flight in the middle of May 1943 like the W.Nr.18209 too. So I suppose the W.Nr.18224 was built in the same time frame and in May/June transfered to the unit.

Best regard
Rasmussen