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Old 26th March 2006, 22:30
Kari Lumppio Kari Lumppio is offline
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Hello Pawel and others too!

Good info. I used my Russian-Estonian vocabulary (because it's more comprehensive than my Russian-Finnish one) and it gave only "more - sea" and "maliy - small" for the "m.". "Mesto" is surely the right one though. Thanks.

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Old 26th March 2006, 23:25
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Kari, just remembered from my russian lessons in high school city is 'gorod' actually but m. is probably for 'mestnost' or village, spot

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Old 27th March 2006, 10:12
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Thank you for yor help. By the way, what does MTAP mean ?
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Old 27th March 2006, 18:29
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Hi Søren
Check www.bellabs.ru/51/Photos/_Equipment.html and enjoy
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Old 27th March 2006, 23:01
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

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what does MTAP mean ?
Well, it is минно-торпедный авиационный полк (minno-torpednyi aviatsionnyi polk) or sth. like mine-torpedo aviation regiment.

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Old 3rd April 2006, 15:30
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Gentlemen, your versions are incorrect. Here "m." could have only two meanings:

1. "mys" = cape
2. "mayak" = lighthouse ("majakka", Kari)

I don't remember what exactly they wrote mentioning Bruesterort, but it seems they meant Bruesterort lighthouse. I can look at my recordings at home, if needed.
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Old 4th April 2006, 14:14
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Hi
A Russian reading friend of mine from Poland translated it to Bruesteort Lighthouse. We are now contacting the chap who runs the home page to get futher info about the plane that went down in the sea.
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Old 5th April 2006, 11:39
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Re: Russian loss on 18/4 1945

Hello,

I've looked at my records and I can say that that particular loss of A-20 has location descripted as "mys Bruesterort" exactly (Bruesterort cape).

But nevertheless this is too far from Bornholm.

VVS KBF concentrated its attacks on Pillau - Koenigsberg area at that day and suffered almost all losses there.

There are two machines, which were missed in unidentified place - one Boston of 15 orap KBF and one Boston of 51 mtap KBF. They flew a recce flights over western part of Baltic sea and hadn't return to bases.

If 'your' aircraft fell to the sea in the afternoon, then the Boston of 15 orap is not an option as far as it took off on morning. Thus, 'your' aircraft is A-20-DO of 51 mtap (Lt.Koltashenko), which took off around 15:00 (14:00 in German time).

Have you any further details about crash?
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