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Old 7th November 2006, 12:06
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Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten

Hallo, Sergio Luis dos Santos!!! Nice to see You here!!!

Where did You found a scan image of report of Fw.Tamm about last mission of Kaldrack & Ortmann? Is it real to find there any more SKG 210/ZG 1 reports?

I discussed this mission with my friends on Suhkoy Forum...

And, according with some documents from ZAMO archives of Russian Federation, we have to say: I found a name of that I-18 pilot (actually it was LaGG-3 fighter from 21 IAP, pilot - starshij leytenant N.F.Bocharov). Both german planes was hit by rockets RS-82, launched from VERY short distance.

After we will clear all with this 100%, I will post it here.

Also, here it is a claim list of Albrecht for You, as fuul as it can be found. A bit later I will try to confirm eatch victory with Russian losts, and find name of crews... If You will use this sourse to find DIRECT locations of victoryes, all work will be very fast

Victory №1
08.02.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 R-5  1 km. S.W. Wjerchowje: no height 16.14 Film C. 2034 Wartemappe?
Victory №2
04.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  8126 at 700 m. 16.18 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.14
Victory №3
04.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  8123 at 600-300 m. 16.27 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: ASM
Victory №4
26.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  07 120: at 100 m. 04.34 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.
Victory №5
26.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  87 210: no height 16.25 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.
Victory №6
01.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-16 Rata  0614: at 1.800 m. 10.19 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 55
Victory №7
23.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  75 272: at 25 m. 14.44 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 59
Victory №8
24.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 DB-3  75 282: at 70 m. 16.29 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 60
Victory №9
23.09.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-15  95 550: at 20-30 m. 12.35 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 74
Victory №10
31.10.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  44 780: at 20 m. 14.39 Film C. 2035/I Anerk: Nr. 76
Victory №11
05.11.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-16 Rata  44 853 at 50 m. 08.25 Film C. 2035/I Anerk: Nr. 79
Victory №?
22.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  südl. Pilsen: 6.100 m. [Bohemia] 12.50 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.28
Victory №?
23.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  S. Wels: 6.500 m. 12.02 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.35
Victory №?
25.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  40 km. N.N.W. Brück: 6.000 m. 13.11 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.27
Victory №?
12.04.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  E. Wiener Neustadt: 6.000 m. 12.13 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.36
Victory №?
26.06.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/CO-5: 7.000 m. [N.W. Pressburg] 09.32 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.37
Victory №?
26.06.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/CM-6: 6.500 m. [Stockerau] 09.52 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.34

Also, Albrecht WAS NOT StaKa of 1./ZG 1.

11-06-42 Oblt. Albert Heilmayer (seems HE was StaKa of 6./ZG 1 after G.Tonne) was shot down by Flak and killed over Schebekino.

And 12-06-42 Albrecht could became StaKa only of "his" 6./ZG 1, not 1./ZG 1 or 4./ZG 1.

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Old 7th November 2006, 13:07
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Hello Eugen,
I really love internet when used for the good.
So you found my other articles at IPMS-Curitiba !
The report of Fw. Tamm was found by author Francis L. Marshal. He has a publishing house, Marshall-Verlag but looks the page is out. Can´t find now... First time I heard of Wolfgang Ortmann was when Francis noticed me the report. Some time latter I could send "in exchange" a new pilot name for his book on the Bf 109 T, Günther Eggebrecht (second updated edition only in German language).
John Vasco published an English translation of this report in his book "Sting of the Luftwaffe". In fact I used John´s one to translate to Portuguese. Since you´re in contact with him I believe he has a copy of it also.
Many thanks for the exciting, to me, new info on Egon victories and Wolfgang last mission. Much appreciated.
I´ll update my files in home. Just hope one day Wolfgang´s last place be found.
Hugs from Rio,
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Old 7th November 2006, 13:21
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Here You are: map , showing last combat mission of Kaldrack & Ortmann.

Basary airfield is located near Staraya Toropa town, South of Toropetz.

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I notice that Hptm Egon Albrecht-Lemke is buried together with an unknown, (Ein Deutscher Soldat) in Beauvais Cemetery, could this be his crewman?
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Old 7th November 2006, 20:13
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I notice that Hptm Egon Albrecht-Lemke is buried together with an unknown, (Ein Deutscher Soldat) in Beauvais Cemetery, could this be his crewman?
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No Joe, "Ein Deutscher Soldat" refeers to Egon itself. At this time he was flying a Bf 109G from JG 76. Many Zerstörer pilots had their units disbanded and some of them joined the single engined fighters. Most interesting that Egon Albrecht and Wolfgang Ortmann where at ZG 1 at same time on Russian front. Who knows they meet toghether?
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Last mission of Hptm. Karl-Heinz Stricker, Gr.Kdr. I./SKG 210.

Both engines hit on combat mission. Crashed into woods.

4 Kms. north of Akkulitschi railway station.

See lokation of Akulichi station on the attached map.
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Hi Joe,

The words "Ein Deutschen Soldat" on Albrecht's grave is a simple title saying that here lies "A German Soldier". Albrecht was shot down and KIA by P-38s (not P-51s) of the 474th FG on 25 Aug 44. He went down in Bf109G-14, werknummer 460593, "Schwarze 21". Albrecht was leading 30-plus Bf109Gs of III./JG76. They took off from their base at Athis on a freijagd towards the Normandy area. They were escorted by 12 Fw190A-8s of I./JG76 led by Lt. Georg Kiefner.

III./JG76 was heading west and 23 474th FG P-38Js were on a parallel opposite course headed for targets in the Laon area. The 109s dumped their tanks, the P-38s dumped their 500lb. bombs and they met in a head-on pass at around 11,000 feet directly over Cambronne-les-Clermont. The fight was joined a few minutes later by 32 Fw190A-8s of II./JG26 led by Hptm. Emil Lang. 11 474th P-38s went down with III./JG76 losing at least 21 aircraft, 5 shot up, and 2 crashlanding back at Athis.

I am presently trying to locate Albrecht's crash site with the help of several French researchers. We believe his site is 500m west of St. Claude near the small village of Arcy.

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Just a slight correction to Gary's posting (a typo no doubt.) Georg Kiefner was the Staffelführer of 1./JG 26, not JG 76.

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Furthermore on Gary's posting.....I actually believe there are TWO graves mentioned on the gravestone of Albrecht. This is not uncommon on German War Cemeteries to have two names on one stone. This actually means that one of the two is an unknown. "Ein Deutscher Soldat" does not reflect to Albrecht.

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