Ju 88 WNR 853 +(H)A

[edNorth]

Hi;

Description sounds like only 2% to 5% damage. A belly landing sometimes 20% but wiping off gear and props was perhaps 30% etc. Damage repair done in foreign country - ? - likely lost to history!

But how obout this one? - No W.Nr. given

.... Ju 88 A-5 3./KGr 806 (Luftflotte 1 East) OPS (F) crash landing (30%) at Helsinki 10.07.1941 (107v19.07.41)

cheers
ed

[Kari Lumppio]

Originally Posted by edNorth

But how obout this one? - No W.Nr. given

.... Ju 88 A-5 3./KGr 806 (Luftflotte 1 East) OPS (F) crash landing (30%) at Helsinki 10.07.1941 (107v19.07.41)

Hello!

In book "Luftwaffen pohjoinen sivusta" (ISBN 951-95688-5-9) Hannu Valtonen lists this as WNr 4408, other data same as yours. AFAIK Valtonen's loss list is based on data provided by Mr. Matti Salonen, who is also a member of this forum (see the members list).

Kari

[Kari Lumppio]

Hello!

Before going to sleep I took the photo book "German aircraft in Finland" by Keskinen et al. (ISBN 952-5026-07-8 ) and paged around. It's been very long since I read the book last time.

Holy cow, at page 65 there are two photos of a Ju 88. Captioned as S4+FH and that the photos show two different planes despite the very same code. Problem number one with that is that at least I haven't found even single flight to Finland by KGr 506 (S4) Ju 88s in their KTB. Plus I think it plausible that the photos do show one and single airframe.

But now I noticed that the lower photo shows Stammkennzeichen under the port wing and the (last two) digits seem to be HA! Could it be that the DE+HA was repaired and unit markings painted on while at Malmi?

This is something that really has to be digged deep.


Kari

[edNorth]

Hi,

Great thanks, one more unknown gone! Searching manually for all reported damaged in July 1941. There are a lot but those two possbilitys stand out:

2159 Ju 88 A-1 / A-5 2./KG 77 (Luftflotte 1 East)
OPS (F) damaged by machine-gun fire (10% Er) at Rossiten 02.07.1941

8253 Ju 88 A-5 3./KG 76 (Luftflotte 1 East)
OPS (F) undercarriage damage (50% Er) at Oilit Airfield 08.07.1941

cheers
ed

[edNorth]

.... disregard last post .... have to chk my copy of
that book!

cheers
ed

[Kari Lumppio]

Hello!

I am resurrecting this old thread because a debate on another forum reminded me about online photos of the topic Ju 88.

Sea Bird Publishing, Inc. site has alltogether some seven photos of the one and same Ju 88 S4+FH at Malmi. These can be found here:

"Finland in WWII, Photos" page 2 and 3 (there are 4 photopages)
http://www.grafixnpix.com/wwii/faf2.htm
http://www.grafixnpix.com/wwii/faf3.htm

Especially interesting is this one:
http://www.grafixnpix.com/wwii/ju88gvu.jpg
which shows letters D+E under the starboard wing, IMO confirming that DE+HA (WNr 853) became S4+FH. After all there is photo of KGr 506 +FH at Malmi with H+A under port wing (see my earlier posting in this thread).



Perhaps this is of use for someone,

Kari