Bf-110B down 3rd Sept 1939 near Warsaw

[Franek Grabowski]

I repeat, it was well known years before Emmerling published his books and articles, that Mazurowski was downed by Januszewicz.
The claim that Polish reports and accounts were filed years after events is just as ridiculous as the claim that there are no period Polish documents around (interestingly Emmerling denies himself in his post). Cynk's book is about Polish Air Force and not the German one, and despite few minor flaws it is still state of the art on the subject.

[robert]

Taking into consideration the amount of materials, which were available to the author this book should be (and have to be) done better.

Robert

[Franek Grabowski]

I will wait for your book.

[GrzegorzM]

Gentelmen, I see some unnecessary conflict... so typical for the serious researchers ;-)

BTW, I'm really interested if it was Bf 110 B or C, could you be so kind, Robert, and share with us your information, not only with Marius on priv.?

I'd like to build a model of that airplane, knowing the version is essential.

BTW, is the range of code numbers possible for this airplane known?

Thanks in advance!
G.

[Franek Grabowski]

The point is that I cannot consider a man spreading false or manipulated information a serious researcher or even researcher at all.

[John Vasco]

Stick to: "HE WHO ASSERTS MUST PROVE" (a very worthwhile and proven legal tenent), and then,
1. We might get clarity on the whole issue of who said what;
2. We just might find out if it was a 'B' or a 'C'; and
3. We just might find out if it was from I./LG 1 or V./LG 1.

I really don't want to read another long Polish bun-fight...

[Franek Grabowski]

John, as you wish. Would you like scans proving the name of the victor and his victim was known years ago? Additionally, a text showing maestry of research. http://www.mysliwcy.pl/artykul.php?id=93&dzial=1

[tagjagd]

Originally Posted by Franek Grabowski

Would you like scans proving the name of the victor and his victim was known years ago? Additionally, a text showing maestry of research.

No, please don't bother. Frankly, Franek, we don't give a damn. The original request had more to do with the variant and markings of the Bf 110 than the person who first documented the names of the combatants.

Your thread hijacking and petty, ad hominem attacks are irksome. Please do us all a favor: Add Marius Emmerling to your "Ignore" list and avoid responding to posts mentioning him. No doubt Marius can do the same.

Originally Posted by John Vasco

I really don't want to read another long Polish bun-fight...

Amen.

[Marius]

We just might find out if it was from I./LG 1 or V./LG 1.

John,
Please show me for example a German “Order of Battle” for 1.9.1939 with a “V./LG 1” recorded there! Sorry, but if somebody ever wrote about a “V./LG 1” in Polish campaign didn`t researched the period 1939 well or at all. In fact it is completely easy to come to know about this.

It is unbelievable, but Franek is using the ignorance of our “western readers” about the Polish campaign or about Polish documentation from this period and easily playing with you cat and mouse!


Grzegorz.

I./ZG 1, I.(Z)/LG 1 and I./ZG 76 each used in Poland one Staffel equipped with the Bf 110 B version. This fact is documented.


Marius

[Ruy Horta]

I was tempted to lock the thread, but I don't want to stop Grzegorz quest for information.

Lets get back on a more constructive track.

If not I'll just lock the thread and that's the end of it.