Savoia Marchetti S.79 wearing strange Luftwaffe Markings/Camouflage

[Clint Mitchell]

Originally Posted by RT

Quite for sure to CQ+HQ the right plane is the Kl35 , the code was given pres. in the order HQ/HR/HS..to HW, to planes of the same school.

What about CQ+HO though Remi?

Clint

[Tom Willis]

Hi

I have issues not only with the origin of the SM 79 and how it came into German use but with the other Italian aircraft in the same Stkz block.
CQ+HR
Is this a genuine Stkz for a Cant Z.1007? I ask this because all I have seen is a Profile painting of the aircraft with the oddly coloured painted markings.
Has anyone seen a photo of this aircraft with the said Stkz?

Regards

Tom Willis

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Tom Willis

CQ+HR
Is this a genuine Stkz for a Cant Z.1007?

I have a Kl 35 for this Stkz.

[RolandF]

Have a look at K.Merrick´s 2nd vol. p.369 and you´ll see some double codes, i.e. registrations...

I´d like to quote from "Luftwaffenverordnungsblatt Nr.9 vom 20.02.1939" (taken from M.Ullmann´s book)concerning the use of Überführungskennzeichen (transfer codes):
"III.Gültigkeitsdauer
Das Überführungskennzeichen gilt nur für die Dauer des Überführungsfluges. Nach Eintreffen des Flugzeuges am Bestimmungsort ist es unverzüglich abzuwaschen. Die Dienststelle, die das Flugzeug übernimmt, teilt der Bauaufsicht des Lieferwerkes bzw. dem Luftzeugamt oder Luftpark innerhalb 3 Tagen nach Abholung mit, daß das Überführungskennzeichen zur anderweitigen Verwendung frei ist."

This means the Überführungkennzeichen, i.e. Stammkennzeichen is not a four letter code fixed for one certain plane but it may be re-used. This may be practicable in peace-time service but hardly to realise during wartime. But it is possible.I´m quite sure that Flying schools and other special units better related to the center of the Reich and its admisnistrations were using this possibilities to assign double registrations re-used for destroyed school planes.

I´ve always wondered why the "Stammkennzeichen" are regarded by you as a strictly fixed rule. No, it was thought as a flexible regulation - such as cars,btw - but war with its over-stretched administartion prevented it from being used for front planes.
What´s your opinion?

Regards

Roland

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by RolandF

Überführungkennzeichen, i.e. Stammkennzeichen is not a four letter code fixed for one certain plane but it may be re-used.

The two types of codes were totally different, do not mix them.
As far as I know, the Überführungkennzeichen were used pre-war and early war, and the first two letters always referred to the factory (i.e., HS for Henschel). These, indeed, were reusable.
However, the Stammkennzeichen were -at least theoretically - unique, of single use. Exceptions occurred, of course, due the imperfect bureaucracy. Our case might have been such an exception...