Bodenwöhr Waldwerk - Mtt Bf 109 K-4 assembly lines 1944 - 1945

[Fliegerhorst]

last but not least, I was told to contact a man in Wertheim who is collector of items of Luftwaffe and specialist of these days.
Will do it this week.

[Fliegerhorst]

the furniture company seems to be the key. They were founded in 1928.
Not a giant area. Did not find pics of the elder buildings up to now.

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Fliegerhorst

I will get a copy of a bill, dated in November 44, where Flumann has to pay for pictures of 60 French POWs or workers, since they received
ID papers.

Hi Fliegerhorst,

I hope all French POW/Workers names are clearly indicated on the said bill. If that, can you please look for "Marcellin" family name? I know he was working on Me262 production in the area. After the war, durind the sixties and followings, he turned to be a very fine LW aircrafts modeller, up to the end...
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Franck.

[Fliegerhorst]

it was without names

but quite interesting was:
contact adress of Flumann, registry number of company etc.

there were non Me262 activities at Wertheim.

Wertheims "chief" airport was Giebelstadt, ca. 5o km near Würzburg.
Wertheim´s "junior" airport Dorndorf ca. 15km was planned to get a longer
runway for Me262. Wertheim never had Me262.
But Giebelstadt was famous for Me262.

Very interesting: in Wertheim there was a Stuka unit, which should
be stationned on Germany´s first carrier "Graf Zeppelin" .

So back to the furniture factory.
I will call friends or will call the company.
And will contact the collector. Both the photographer and the museum´s
director told me his name.

[Fliegerhorst]

interesting by the way,
there was no postal adress on Flumann´s bill, simply Flumann GmbH Wertheim 2.
But Kreuzwertheim is Bavarian, other side of river.
Probably even on the bills it was tried to hide informations.

Once I worked for a company in Wertheim Bestenheid which was named Wertheim 2.
Hmmmm ....
Today I asked a former collegue and he told me that there were some Stukas
but far away from the airport on the plateau. There is the river "Main" harbour which is called Winterhafen, thus the Stukas were stored maximum 100m from the harbour.
The company´s plant was built in 1944, former boss is said having worked for
Speer. And I remember a one-man bunker at he harbour. Modern Wertheim Bestenheid built much later.
I wonder why the Stukas were there, far away from the 200m higher plateau.
Wertheim 2 would mean that Flumann had a plant there and the Möbelfabrik
would have been an additional partner?

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hallo Roland and Ouidjat,

Thanks for the pointer and...the follow-up;-))) Much appreciated.

But thanks to you, Fliegerhorst, the whole Wertheim Flugwerft and Mtt final assembly activities is coming back alive and kicking. Thanks so much for your time, your enthusiasm and the knowledge you convey to us from the people who saw those activities unfurl.

I will be back more in detail Wednsday as I'm on travel. In the mean time, any new additions will be highly appreciated.

Cheers
Marc

[Fliegerhorst]

Summary:

Schlossberg Tunnel storage
Waldenhausen Tunnel storage
Kaffelstein tunnel no storage
Eichelsteige motor storage
November 44 bill 60 photos of French workers to Flumann Wertheim 2 which should
have been Wertheim Bestenheid
pictures taken in Kreuzwertheim in or close to furniture company of nowadays.
photographer told of wing etc repair and electronics repair

[masmar]

Hi Fliegerhorst,

you said you'll make some pictures of the former Wertheim airfield as well. Could you have a look if the so called "Kompensierscheibe" is still there and could you take some pictures of it. You can find it at this coordinates in Google maps : (49.75572879834715, 9.48593258857727) ( the dark circle in that grainfield). It was used to adjust the compasses.
That would be awesome.
Thank you very much for the new informations.

Best regards

Matthias

[Fliegerhorst]

Hallo Herr xxx,

es ist tatsächlich so, daß in einem unserer Firmengebäude im Krieg
Flugzeugteile montiert oder hergestellt wurden. Leider liegen uns keine Dokumente vor.Ein früherer Mitarbeiter von uns, Herr xxx, Kreuzwertheim, kann Ihnen aber eventuell weiterhelfen, er weiß recht viel über diese Zeit.

Schöne Grüße aus Kreuzwertheim

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Betreff: Geschichtsforschung

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Ich bin gerade dabei, ein wenig über die Geschichte Wertheims
bis zum Jahre 1945 vor allem die Luftfahrt betreffend zu recherchieren.
Hierbei bin ich auf die Flugzeugwerke Mannheim gestossen, auch Flumann
GmbH genannt. Diese sollen bei Ihnen oder neben Ihnen in Kreuzwertheim angesiedelt gewesen sein. Im Schlossbergtunnel unter der Burg wurden Flügel und Rümpfe gelagert. In einer Rechnung aus dem November 44 an Flumann ist als Anschrift Wertheim 2 genannt, was aber kaum Kreuzwertheim gewesen wäre. Andererseits sollen in Kreuzwertheim nicht mehr existierende Hallen gestanden haben. Flügel- und Rumpfreparatur ME109. Können Sie mir bei der Heimatforschung behilflich sein? Haben Sie vielleicht sogar Originaldokumente aus jener Zeit?

[Fliegerhorst]

Hello Masmar, i am living ca. 1km from that place. I know the farmers, their sons. There is a place where a flak tower shall be located. Some bushes etc., concrete rests. May be concrete rest of Kompensierscheibe.
Must walk there since it´s surrounded by fields etc.

Thank Your for Your question. Me stupid was told by my parents that there was a wooden construction which could be turned to turn the airplains into the wind.

I just searches Kompensierscheibe in wikipedia and learned about the
magnetic failures of compasses and countermeasurements.

My grandfather, this is true! , and others removed the wooden parts
of the "Kompensierscheibe" to burn the wood in ovens.

My ancestors arrived at Wertheim in 1946 as refugees. Wood, papers, etc
all was used to burn and recycle.
My ancestors cooked with wood of the Kompensierscheibe!

In the old kitchen of the Fliegerhorst there is the kitchen of "Polizeischule" etc. The old sand stone buildings survived.

The old photographer has many pics of destroyed hangars.

Very interesting the old Wehrmacht depot with a road in the forest
and halt points very ca. 30m at the right side. a wall ca. 1m high.
people say for the airplanes, storing fuel and/or ammunition in open air
places.
It´s called "the old Wehrmacht" depot.