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Old 8th August 2015, 15:08
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

Hi all

In FB Wodrig I read WNr. 1063 for KK + LM !
The number "6" wasn't clear, but it is a "6" !

The right SKZ for Do 24 / WNo. 1001-1003 was DT + HC - DT + HE.

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Old 8th August 2015, 16:36
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

Thank you Jo-Me. W.Nr. 1063 for KK+LM fits in perfectly.
The same goes for the St.kz. 1101-1103 with DT+HC - DT+HE.
Initially I also had DT+ but years ago someone pursuaded me to change ti DH+.
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Old 8th August 2015, 20:05
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

Post 21 WNr.1003
post 22 WNr.1001-1003 DT+HC to +HE
post 23 WNr.1101-1103 DT+HC to +HE

Confusing

And a remark: Wodrig book was sold on Ebay and on the pages where numbers (serials) wrote with a different pen and handwriting. Could this be added post war with possible faults then ?
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Old 8th August 2015, 20:58
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

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And a remark: Wodrig book was sold on Ebay and on the pages where numbers (serials) wrote with a different pen and handwriting. Could this be added post war with possible faults then ?
If you read the postings again there isn't so much confusing ...

post 21: I've read "1003" (my interpretation) ... it could it be "1063" too (like JoMe wrote isn't clear to read and it seems "1063" fits better).

post 22 and 23: They have to say who is correct ...

Of course it's possible that's an after war add but it could be an war add from another clerk at the same time too ... who know it ...
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Old 10th August 2015, 20:05
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

All

My apologies for not getting back on this interesting topic. The autumn bird-watching season is now in full swing and with juveniles and rutting parents all around, also that much more difficult....... and interesting!

Again, thanks very much for the additional STKZ details and also the additional explanations regarding SNCAN.

Seaplanes, I will send you a private message.

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Old 7th November 2015, 18:30
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Hi Seaplanes
I want to thank you for the info on the SNCAN production very interesting. Are you certain of the Stkz GM+IJ - GM+IK for 991 - 992? I have this Stkz block with Go 242A production. Is it not possible that the CN+IJ often quoted as being the Stkz for 991 as being the most likely. This was allocated to W/Nr 44 this was not assigned to the Lw but was sent to SNCAN at Sartrouville as a pattern a/c and according to the list given in a Dutch publication assigned the W/Nr FS 1. As 991 & 992 were all built using parts from the Fokker plant could W/Nr 44 (FS 1) be the 1st production a/c at Sartrouville W/Nr 991 still retaining it's original Stkz CN+IJ.
The CIOS report also gives the interesting details that 127 a/c were planned to be built there until Sept.1945 it gives the further W/Nrs up until construction no 102
58 - 64 - 1178 to 1184; 65 - 72 - 1201 to 1208; 73 - 76 - 1221 to 1224;
77 - 86 - 1231 to 1240; 87 - 89 - 1253 to 1255; 90 - 97 - 1271 to 1278;
98 - 102 - 1301 to 1305;
This includes the 2nd contract order for 50 aircraft to be built up to April 1945. The rest were 21 a/c up until August 1945 with the last order of 6 a/c to be completed Sept.1945.
Lastly I am trying to find the W/Nr for the Stkz DT+HB. DT+HA is 1075 with DT+HC to DT+HE as W/Nr 1101 to 1103. Also I have a reference that BJ+FE has the W/Nr 1104 but cannot find the source for this. Has anybody any ideas? Plus you have KK+LV without a W/Nr? It is most likely that this was W/Nr 2131.
If anybody can add anything then please do. Many Thanks
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Old 8th November 2015, 11:01
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

Tom

Interesting stuff. However I don't follow you regarding the double WNr issue you list. Can you explain them?

I always thought those you list as 58-102 were the RLM issued ones (0058 to 0102), but now you introduce 1178-1305 (with black out blocks). What are they?

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Old 11th November 2015, 16:52
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

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All

My apologies for not getting back on this interesting topic. The autumn bird-watching season is now in full swing and with juveniles and rutting parents all around, also that much more difficult....... and interesting!



Cheers
Stig
"rutting parents"? Wow, that must be interesting to see!

Stig, I just returned from a 3 week cruise on the Danube, Main and Rhine. Great trip.

I saw my first Goshawks in years and a bunch of Bustards (SP?). The latter are weird birds. Big as our Red-tailed Hawks, but they were just sitting in a field, watching the ground. It had been recently plowed and dragged. Do not know what they were looking for: Voles or mice?

All the ducks, mostly Mallards, know what the river boats mean: food!, and as soon as we slowed down or docked, there they are, begging! They like raisin/oatmeal cookies.....
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Old 11th November 2015, 17:58
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

John

Yes birds are interesting. Never seen a European Great Bustard, but plenty of related species in Africa. It eats everything it can swallow, both vegetables and insects, mice and so on. Probably not snakes though...

There are more Mallards around us humans than wild in nature (or so it seems).
The very duck which all of us see. It is interesting to see the rutting male and how look-a-like he becomes the female, but you can tell by his beak and also his/her sound.

Redtailed Hawks were plentyful in Yellowstone this summer and we learned the difference between male, female and juveniles. Sometimes very tricky if you ask me...

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Old 11th November 2015, 15:49
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Re: SeenotSt.6 Losses 1-11-1943

Your not the only one Stig
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