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10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hello,
I am looking for information about Bordfunker or Bordmechaniker Egon Komatowski who belonged to 10./NJG11 from at least January 1945 to the end of the war. He may have flown in the Me 262 two-seater. So far, I could only find information about one radar operator who flew with the two-seater: Reinhard Lommatzsch who was killed while bailing out of a Me 262 B. Does anybody know the names of the other radar operators who flew the Me 262 B? Regards Roger Gaemperle |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hi Roger,
Fw. Hans Fryba flew operationally as Lt. Altner's BF in the Me262B, after the death of Lommatzsch on 27-28/3/45, and participated in the only known night claim for an Abschuss in the two-seater. As you know, you have the document that indicates a 'Hfw. Lippert' (sic) and a 'Ofw. Gabriel' flew a sortie together while in 10./NJG11 (date and aircraft type not stated), but there is no real provenance to the authenticity of this document, and the observations recorded in the document do not appear to relate to any known RAF night raid during 1945. Cheers Rod |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hi Rod,
Thanks for the name of Hans Fryba. Regarding 'Hfw. Lippert' (sic) and a 'Ofw. Gabriel': I don't doubt the authenticity of the document. There could be several reasons why the document seems not to correspond to any known RAF raid. Lippert may have overestimated the bomber force and instead of 50 there were only 20 of a diversion raid. Or Lippert wasn't sure about the area where they sighted the bombers (if the location wasn't measured from the ground at the moment when he sighted the bomber force). I have attached a map with the flight locations according to the document. If one assumes straight lines between the single cities the distance ist about 600 km (in reality it was probably more). Flight duration was 1.5 hrs which gives an average of 400 km/h. Perhaps it helps to compare with RAF raids in spring 1945. The bombers were sighted in the area Nienburg (which was not exactly on a straight line between Hannover and Lüneburg). Regards Roger Gaemperle Last edited by Roger Gaemperle; 16th June 2008 at 07:51. |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hi Roger,
thanks for the reply. The added problem with the observations recorded in the document is that specific times of sightings are given. Looking at every night raid throughout Mar-April 1945, there appear to have been no raids/spoofs/diversions involving RAF heavies that passed through the specific area, in the general direction stated, at the specific time. Cheers Rod |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hi Rod,
I guess that it won't be possible to find out how many aircraft and what type of aircraft they met on that mission unless some other documents appear which tell us more about the date and mission. I thought it must have been after Mar 45 assuming that it could have been a Me 262 B but that was my guess, it could well be that it happened before that and that the aircraft was not a Me 262 but another nightfighter. At least, there are other sources that proof that Lippert was a pilot of 10./NJG11. There is still very little known about 10./NJG11 except for the well known accounts of Lamm, Altner, Becker. I am sure there were a lot more than just 3 pilots. Regards Roger |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Hi Roger,
besides Welter, Becker, Altner, Lamm, Lippert, and BFs Lommatzsch, Fryba, and Gabriel, the following pilots also served with the Staffel as far as I'm aware: Lt. Georg Czpionka, Uffz. Fritz Neppach, Ofw. Fritz Reichenbach, Ofw. Gustav Richartz, Ofw. Heinrich von Stade (KIA 2-3/4/45), Ofw. Gottfried Schneider (joined near end of war, after flying Ta154 operationally, 'don't know if his regular BF, Ernst Hammer, joined as well), Ofw. Paul Brandl (killed 4/2/45), Oblt. Walter Eppelsheim (killed 4/2/45), Ofw. Walter Bocksteigel (killed 17/2/45), Ofw. August Weibl (killed 3/3/45). Cheers Rod |
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Re: 10./NJG11 Egon Komatowski
Take a look here Mike if you haven't seen it already:
http://aircrewremembrancesociety.com...anPilotsS.html Have you looked in Dr Theo Boiten's "Nachtajagd War Diaries?" You might find information there. |
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