Seeking Staffel for I.(Z)/LG1 Bf110C crew loss 4.10.39

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

Have just acquired a photo of this October 4, 1939 crash:

I.(Z)/LG1 Messerschmitt Bf110C-1. Flew into ferry-boat cable and crashed in the River Main while low-flying near Grossheubach, north of Miltenberg. (Ff) Oberlt Heinz Höhler and (Bf) Uffz Ernst Krenz both killed. Aircraft 100% write-off.

The circumstances are very similar to a 13 Staffel loss "in December" described in von Eimannsberger's book on V.(Z)/LG1, P. 17, but with an entirely different crew (FF Fw Stern, BF Walther Tietz).

In the EOE DB we carry:

16 December 1939: 13.(Z)/LG1 Messerschmitt Bf110C-1. Crashed into a mountain and burned out at Luisterberg, near Springen, flying through low cloud. (Ff) Fw Gerhard Stern and (Bf) Uffz Walther Tietz killed. (Note: Neither found in VDK) Aircraft 100% write-off.

Has vE.'s source scrambled these two losses and their crews, and entirely omitted the Oct. loss? The Höhler/Krenz crew is not mentioned in the index of unit crews, nor in the index to the book.

Can anyone supply the Staffel to which the 4 October Bf110/crew that crashed was assigned, or provide any other info/photos about these two crashes?

Thanx,

[Larry Hickey]

This post can be removed, as I transferred it to the Luftwaffe Board