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Old 17th June 2013, 15:17
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Soviet P-39 Airacobra- six wing guns?

I just got a model P-39 Airacobra. It is in Soviet markings that I gather belong to an ace named Pokryskin. It is serial no. 29033, and has a "board number" of 01.
What I'm confused about is that it has three guns in each wing, two fixed (presumably .30cal) machine guns, and a single underwing pod (for six total). There are no cowling guns, only the M4 cannon barrel. From what I can find googling, there were versions that had just the four .30 wing guns, and there were versions that had 2 .50cal machine guns in gondolas INSTEAD of the .30cals. I can't find any mention or photos of P-39's with six guns in/under the wing.
The markings and serial belong to a P-39N-0, but who knows if the markings actually match the type of plane that it's modeled after. Does anyone know if there is a version of the P-39 built with six wing guns, or if the Russians liked to add their own guns themselves? Or if this is a mistake and it should have been made with either the .30's or the .50's, not both? It should be easy enough to remove one or the other and make it accurate, but I want to be sure that it is a mistake before I co and cut anything off.
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Old 18th June 2013, 04:40
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Re: Soviet P-39 Airacobra- six wing guns?

Like you Johnny, I can only see references to P-39s (Qs) with the wing 30s removed & replaced by an underwing mounted 50. Apparently the VVS liked to remove the wing mounted 30s & retain the nose 50s & 37mm cannon to improve roll rate so I'd be surprised if they added an underwing 50 to the wing mounted 30s, especially an ace like Pokryshkin. I'm picking that the kit manufacturer has modded a -D mold with gondola mounted 50s to create a -Q. Whose kit is it?
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Old 18th June 2013, 14:10
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Re: Soviet P-39 Airacobra- six wing guns?

It's not a kit, it's a pre-assembled plastic model. Pretty cheap deal, like $15 I think. I am thinking that whatever molds they used were set up to make either version, but they ended up inaccurately sticking both the gondolas and the .30cals on. The other thing is that it doesn't appear to have any cowling guns. Wasn't there a version of the P-39 that did away with the cowling guns and just had the 37mm and the wing guns? In any case, I too only see references to the Soviets removing the wing guns, which I doubt they'd do if they were using a version that didn't have cowling guns. They'd be left with just the 37mm then.
So I guess what I have to figure out is whether to remove just the .50's, or just the .30's, or remove both and just ignore the fact that there are no obvious cowling guns. It's basically for decoration anyway, but it'd be nice to have it half-way accurate at least.
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Old 18th June 2013, 22:20
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Re: Soviet P-39 Airacobra- six wing guns?

Not being a P-39 guru I won't try to comment definitively but from what I've known & assumed to be true, all P-39s kept their nose machine guns unless it was a field mod. I'm happy to be corrected on this. As for yours I'd knock the wing guns off & call it a -Q & paint it accordingly.
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