Crashed plane on territory of Czechoslovakia

[Michal]

Hallo,

thank all for help. The source is Národní archiv Praha (National Archive Prague), fond Říšského protektora (Reichsprotektoramt file), Befehlshaber der Ordnungspolizei Ia (BdO Ia), Box 50, 83, 1212, Tages- und Morgenmeldungen May 1944 - February 1945.

In this fond are reports of local police station to BdO Ia Prag about crashes of planes (and other security things, of course) day by day. It is not such complete as Verlustmeldungen. The short descriptions of crash usually contains of date, time and place of crash, type of aircraft is maybe in three third of cases, other things as name of pilot, name of unit, WNr. are rear; in lot of cases there are Stammkennzeichen. We should know that this reports were made by local policemen and not Luftwaffen Experten, so there is lot of faults. But basically there is at least time and place of crash. The whole file is about 400 crashes plus. Some months (for example as December 44 is not complete as an other ones).

Best and once again thank you

Michal

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, Michal

This source would be interested to the 1944 project (description later when I get the time).

Could You pls inform us of the availability of these documents, is it for example possible to buy copies from the archive?

Regards,
Andreas

[Michal]

Andreas,

Yes, it is possible to obtain copies. Only you should know what Number of sheet do you want. Unfortunatelly they have not so detailed numbering of papers, so you are able to read, read and read to find out something. But yes, it is possible I will give you catalogue numbers of those documents which I have already overwritten. If you have interest, please, send me private message.

Best

Michal

[edNorth]

Hi Michal

Any Ju 88 in there; can you give ju 88 info via private mail? Most interested are if there are codes also?

cheers+
ed

[Dénes Bernád]

Michal,

It would be much easier to find matching losses if you would list the dates and locations, too.
Do you know if Rumanian and Hungarian airplanes (German types, of course) were also included in the list?

[Michal]

Hallo Bernád,

there is no evidence of "nationality" of planes except some American and one Soviet planes. So, I could not to say you yes or no. But I think Hungarian maybe and I believe Romanian in any case. But only believe. If you know about some Hungarian planes which could crashed on territory of Czechoslovakia, send me date and approximately time and I will search my database.

I have tried to search location of crash of Bf-110 (Lájos Göcsei, István Loys, 6./NJG 102 Ohlau) which sent a radio message from area SW of Pardubice on Dec 5 1944 during night flight but without succes. I have in my databes only one plane crashed nearby Pardubice on that day but around 14 o´clock. On Dec 6 1944 there is an other crashed plane nearby Pardubice but it seems to be one-seat plane.

It seems that this plane did not crash on territory of Protektorat Böhmen-Mähren but my files could be incomplete as well.

Best

Michal